joining us is andre perry, founding dean of urban education at davenport university. cnn contribute for charles blow. mikayla angela davis. david webb, host of the david webb show. and hip-hop artist nas. welcome to you all. appreciate you being here. [ applause ] that picture where george zimmerman is black and trayvon martin is white, do you think had those roles been reversed this case would have played out in the same way? >> i think that's an important question to ask. it is really hard to know, but what we know from the science, and you know a lot of the science, i know a lot of this science from looking at the studies, is that most americans have implicit biases along racial lines. that's just the truth. project implicit is the biggest one of these. they looked at hundreds of thousands of people who have taken this test. it's partially maintained by harvard, and it shows that when you break it down, whites have an incredibly high implicit racial bias that is pro right and anti-black. and they use it by asians and blacks and whatever. what is most interesting to