and i just said, whoa, this is like davey crockett stuff or something. you know? and so we got there. i was really excited. i remember my mom saying go play with the other kids. i was hanging out with his kids like any familiar lishgs you know? but over the years -- and i thinking maybe in the mid 60s to the late 60s that time. there were so many people out on the streets. so many things going on. and the war and change the lafrpg ray, all th lingerie and whatever it was and pete was always there. you could hear that banjo of his from blocks away. i remember walking through washington, d.c., and i could hear his banjo. and him, you know, singing. and there's no other instrument like that. and so i met up with him at all of these different things. and then in the late 60s, we started doing these annual shows together at carnegie hall in new york around thanksgiving. we did that. the last one we did together was a few months before he passed away. he was 94. he couldn't even walk out on the stage. he had these two canes and he was getting out there. and that audienc