not a sign of david.he police went on to newer cases, but his mother never let up, phoning, nagging, writing. she knew david was out there, somewhere. >> we had letters to america's most want and i said maybe we can have the semi, put a picture of him in the back of the semi. a list of the trucking companies and the letters. it took me a long time to finish any letter about him. because i didn't want the ending to be like i thought it was. >> it was a horrible limbo. a piece of her hoping for good news. part part of her mourning a loss. >> i found a therapist and she said take like 20 minutes out of every day and scream and cry in the morning or at night. >> can anybody understand what it's like for a mother to lose? >> no. >> the investigation was back in high gear. judy told the detective in a corner of her heart she hoped david may turn up safely some day. the detective was not inclined to false hope. she did not for a minute think he was still alive. had he died accidentally, surely a sign of him woul

david: liz. we should be able to do anytime we want, to make sure the money is there if it is customers money. that is the first thing. the second thing is standardized audits. different regulators who look at these things. the national futures association. we at the cftc look at it. the exchanges look at it. their own auditors look at it. we need a common set of audit didding practices so things aren't "lost in translation.". and the thing we need liquidity level alerts. when somebody starts to dip into a problem because they have been credit downgraded or something of that nature we need to be alerted. if we get to a point we think they will have real problems and lose customers money they will be mandated to move those fund to another firm. if they don't do it, then we step in, the regulators will mandate because the first thing we've got to look for, the main thing is customer money. david: now, bart, you stand a pretty good chance i think of getting those three through in some form but there

david: huh?how how to qualify when we go "off the desk" ahead on aft the closing bell. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us serving you, around the country, around the corner. us bank. david: in just a little over four hours president barack obama and challenger mitt romney will take to the stage for the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. lauren: peter barnes is live at the heart of the action in ben very. peter, both candidates want ear of undecided tonight. what will they be listening for? >> hey, lauren, very good. just in case you weren't sure about where we are, we are at the university of denver because the university is trying to be very low-key about all this and isn't try

it was the early '90s when david and shelly met. he was the dive instructor and she was the customer on a boat out in narragansett bay. >> it was a rocky day, a little bumpy, a couple of the tough guys got seasick. i paired up with her and went back in. >> she had some sponge? >> she had a lot of sponge. i was showing her fish in a way she had never seen them before. that's what got things started. >> shelly was a bundle of energy. a 5'0" tall teacher and school administrator. she was as vivacious as he was quiet. when they started dating, david was only too happy to show shelly the waters where he pursued his life's passion, teaching scuba and kayaking through his dive shop in jamestown, rhode island. here he is in 1997 giving a kayak lesson. >> it's an easy figure 8 stroke. >> he was known to his friends and customers as an honest businessman and active member of the community. likewise, the people in shelly's circle raved about her, school parents like colleen. >> she was effervescent. always on the move, always on the go. >> she

david: how much? liz: starting price, david, $3 million. david: starting price? story. who wrote it when we go off the desk. liz: time to go "off the desk." a penny for your thoughts? how about $3 million for your thoughts? albert einstein's letter on god is up for auction. the private letter was written in 1954, shortly before his death. the letter will be auctioned with its original envelope, stamp and postmark t will be on ebay until october 18th with an opening bid of $3 million. david: is this one where he says god doesn't roll dice? he has got a plan? also "off the desk", actress mila kunis has snagged the title of 2012 sexiest man alive according t

david: another u.s.hreatened as hackers continue their attacks on our financial institutions. is your money safe? details straight ahead. >> i'm robert gray with your fox business brief. stocks fell as corporate profit outlooks and the federal reserve's latest assessment of the u.s. economy did little to soothe growing concerns over the globe economy. red arrows across the board. >>> mcgraw-hill may soon have bids for its education unit. reuters reported private equity firms including bain capital and apollo global management may be making their final plays for the unit at the end of this month. mcgraw-hill may decide not to sell but spin off the unit if it bids fail to meet its price target the more than $3 billion bucks. >>> wall mart doesn't expect a drop off in consumer gdp or spending. it plans to open smaller neighborhood stores and expanding the e-commerce business with a same day delivery test for the holidays. the stock was at a record high today. that's the latest from the fox business, giving

david? david: all right. materials were the worst performing sector today, of course, weighed down by global growth concerns. that's the first word we got that really sent this market south, what's happening overseas, spain looking like it's going to go into a fourth quarter contraction. that's not good news. then we have the earnings come out, all that driving down materials. liz: uym, and we've got the one that you see up here, there it is. look at this, and we see the top holdings of some of these including due possibility, freeport-mcmoran, dow chemicals and then the spider select materials sector, that down about 3%. top holdings there, monsanto, dupont. david: liz, let's take a look at that index you were talking about, the volatility index. when things go south, as they have, this usually goes up. this is not a stock, this is an index, but there are stocks that are linked to this if you think things are going to continue to go south. this was just down below 15 not long ago, it jumped about 13% today,

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david: no. new york stock exchange and nasdaq will be closed they were closed all day today and tomorrow as well due to hurricane sandy d that does not mean you shouldn't pay attention to your portfolio. liz: with us, gary rand, founder and chairman of calimus partners and ryan dietrich schaeffer invests. you can take this one. people might be antsy here and into insurance companies and want to dump them. they can not until they open or even globex trading because they shut down electronics too. >> that's right, liz. that is the big problem with all this. the reason we've been dropping last couple weeks is uncertainty. now we had a election look like obama was going to win. now mitt romney is surging. we're talking about all day today watching tv with issues with the weather. the bottom line you can't trade like you said for a couple days. uncertainty continues to creep up. until we get through the election we wouldn't be shocked at all volatility downward trend would continuers let's go to gary

david had a roommate and that room maid heard david take a phone call before he went out that night. pretty sure it was a woman on the phone. david takes the phone and goes to his room. comes out a little while later all spruced up and ready to go out with a smile on his face. combing his hair and putting on his cologne and david jackson left the apartment at that point. that was the last his friends saw him. >> what really happened in the motel? wolfe said he hid in the bathroom when david arrived. >> barbara answer and he walked in and they sat down on the edge of the bed. barbara had a stun gun and hit him with the stun gun. >> the stun gun malfunctioned. wolfe stepped out of the bathroom with his gun. >> he had the gun wrapped in a towel and he showed me like this and i fired one shot and about that time, harry britton came into the room and said he's not dead yet. she still breathing. shoot him again. i shot him again and he said that shot killed him and they put david's body in the back of harry's vw and transported it to the site where they predug the grave and all they had to

david: thanks, nicole. appreciate it. lauren: i'm stretching, david.look who is doing the speed read. lauren: five stories, one minute. microsoft launching the news operation as part of the new msn website later this month. it will be available for users with windows 8 and internet explorer 10 #. honda recalling 600,000 mid size cars in the u.s. to faulty hoses affecting hondas from 2003-2007, model years with v6 engines. macy's adding 80,000 seasonal workers this holiday season hired for the the macy's and bloomingdale centers and call cementers nationwide. sachs opened in kazakhstan in a new complex in the city's largest city. women make up 8 # 0% of mobile game players. women are more likely than men to play mobile gains involving social engagements like words with friends, draw something, and, yes, that's the speed read with three seconds to spare. i don't may mobile games whatsoever. david: stepping up to it. ben bernanke says a recession is not on the way, but the recent economic data may suggest otherwise. one of the smart education mind on the

david: you are wrong. he succeeded as a hedge fund because he sold his hedge fund for $800 million to citi. >> you are exactly right. the hedge fund with a mediocre record which he then turned around. why did they make hii ceo? david: i believe it was 2007. look, the fact is that citigroup for decades, the definition of crony capitalism always looking for bailouts, they were doing it from the mid-90s they did it for bad russian deaths and of course treasury secretary became the leader at citigroup. i wonder the same thing will happen again. maybe tim geithner once he leaves the white house will join. >> you are bad for my nervousness. i would short again. have you ever known tim geithner to be right about anything? liz: can i stand up for citi for one second? anything i've ever done with them has done extraordinarily nice. checking accounts and things like that, look at that and say dropping down into moscow, there it is, into any country, they have a quality and solid consumer banking business, do they no

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david, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, david. as these waves continue to crash, you are right. an army is headed this direction. an army of utility workers, because if the predictions are right, these lights are going to go out and those workers are going to be extremely busy. the power was going out even before the full force of sandy hit shore. >> see the fuse? >> reporter: larry jackson knows the worst is still to come. >> 16 hour days. >> reporter: thousands of utility workers are in their trucks and headed east tonight, to repair what are expected to be massive power outages. these beach vacationers packed up to head home, inland. >> actually, the aftermath is what we're concerned about. >> reporter: no power. >> right. and for days. >> reporter: the power outages are expected to be widespread. >> it may take a long time not only to clear, but also to get, for example, the power companies back in. >> reporter: during hurricane irene last year, about 6 million homes lost electricity. this researcher plugged in all the informa

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david? >> matt gutman, our thanks to and we want to ask this question, everyone's been asking today, why is this being called a superstorm, and where is the track right now? let's bring in sam champion in lower manhattan, where there could be a huge storm surge. sam, let's start with the track. where is sandy right now? >> reporter: all right, so, david, let's look at it and show you the latest from the her cape center. there's not been much change from yesterday to today. if you look at the track, you may see the -- by the way, let me just mention, as you said, david, this cloud canopy goes from the carolinas all the way past hudson bay and canada, almost into the arctic circle there. unbelievable. but that shift in the track, ever so slight, if you look right around tuesday at 2:00 a.m., that atlantic city line. it's been weaving a little bit on new jersey, where the center of that path would be. but that's not that important, other than where the major water will go, with that storm surge

david: breaking news. president and governor chris christie, once again, a contrast in political styles but they are absolutely unified in their attempts to bring us back to a state of normal or close to one. there you see senator lautenberg and senator menendez behind him. as soon as they begin speaking, the president and governor christie we'll bring that to you. they are live in atlantic city. liz? liz: that said we may have to interrupt the next interview but we need to get it to you. look at the images in lower manhattan, they are disturbing for just about anybody but imagine if you owned lots of property in the area. we have some who owns a lot not to mention cone any eye lan and brooklyn. joe has thousands and thousands of square footage in real estate in hardest hit areas. by the way you tried to get in on the brooklyn bridge. they tried to keep you from coming because now this is kicking in, folks. you heard this earlier. now this started mayor bloomberg says no more car with one person in them. h

david: thank you very much, janice dean.: if you didn't see it there is video we have the stretch of queens homes that caught fire due to electrical explosions. there it is, 80 plus homes including a u.s. congressman's home were burned down. home prices how will they be effected a if at all? what about the rebuild? home prices climbed nationwide for fifth month in a row in august. a latest sign that the real estate sector is gaining strength this year. david: will mass flooding and devastation inflicted by super storm sandy trigger a setback or a boon to builders? we have karl case from the case-shiller index. he is the coauthor of that report. good to see you, professor. thanks for coming in. overall what do you think the effect of this storm will be on the housing market? >> it is hard to say. it will take some units out that will have to be replaced and they will be replaced i assume. the numbers are not large in terms of the national housing market. it could wreak havoc with our index in new york and new jersey but we de

david: all in gold. liz: good to be king. david: numb per one, jobless claims.ure fell to 339,000 for the week of october 6th. this is a decline of 30,000 from the prior week and the biggest drop since july. a possible issue involving a state not fully reporting claims numbers, remember that may have skewed the final tally. economists are expecting a uptick in tomorrow's report. lets hope and pray. liz: we'll have it here on fox business. "money with melissa francis" is next. don't move. >> in the last four years you cut permits and licenses on federal land in federal waters in half. >> not true, governor romney. >> how much did you cut them. >> not true. >> how much did you cut them? >> governor we produced more oil. >> no, how much did you cut licenses and permits on federal lands and federal waters?. melissa: welcome to the 2012 smackdown. of the president obama and mitt romney go to the mat on energy policy. our favorite topic. both men unleashed all kind of stats. we're going to crunch the real numbers for you. also money tonight, new

david: one.hings when you looked what happened to this market over the past 24 hours you see a stock like apple dropping 3.6%. huge drop. mcdonald's dropping 4 1/2%. that is the biggest drop for mcdonald's in three years. so, on thursday analysts are expecting the world's most valuable company apple to report their earnings, anything can happen. they may be coming out with the minutey ipad at that conference. be very interesting. actually it is tuesday is the announcement. liz: money with tra melissa francis is next. have a lovely evening. thanks for joining us. melissa: i'm melissa francis and here's what's "money" tonight. the cyber attacks on banks keep coming. now they're taking a menacing turn, striking at random and without warning. we're going to show you how they set them up and how dangerous they could become. plus can you feel it? pain at the pump eases for the 11th straight day. we have details whether the gas price relief will last. >>> would you give someone $50,000 to end those anno

david plouffe. finally, insights and analysis from our political roundtable. joining us, conservative activist and founder of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reed. former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. anchor of bbc's "world news america" katty kay. and our chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. with both sides in full preparation mode for wednesday's first presidential debate, the struggling romney campaign is recalibrating his message to better connect with voters on the economy and to attack the president on his handling of the latest foreign policy crisis, the evolving explanation of what exactly happened in libya when our u.s. ambassador was killed more than two weeks ago on 9/11. we'll hear from a top obama adviser, david plouffe, in a moment. but first, joining me now, the republican governor of new jersey chris christie. welcome back to "meet the press." >> happy to be back, david. good morning. >> the key battlegrou

david: really?eople would think with a good jobs report you think he would pull back but you think it might encourage him to do more? >> i don't mean this particular one, if we continue -- keep in mind i'm focusing on establishment survey. last few months we've been averaging 150,000 that is okay. we have 150,000 will take us 10 years to get back to full employment. david: dean baker, thank you very much you came con to talk about taxes. we switched because of the news. appreciate you switching gears dean baker. thanks very much. >> appreciate you having me on. david: retailers around the country already spreading holiday cheer saying they will hire tens of thousands for the big shopping season. maybe this is one of the reasons the jobs figure is turning around but are shoppers really feeling as optimistic as they think they are. also we're heading back to the buckeye state for a look at this week's news making interviews from our open for business series. you see us, at the start of the day. on the

david? >> all right, taking a beating there in north carolina, matt gutman, thank you tonight. >>> so, just why is everyone calling this a superstorm? and where is the track right now? let's bring in abc weather editor sam champion in lower manhattan tonight. sam, great to see you. let's start with the track tonight. where is sandy right now? >> reporter: good evening, david. you just heard matt talk about the cold air, that's part of the reason it's a superstorm. show you that satellite picture that you showed at the top of the show. take a look at that very carefully. you notice the clouds are running from the carolinas all the way past the canadian border, then way up there is hudson bay, just go a little beyond it, it's the arctic circle. incredible reach of clouds. this has got to be one of the largest cloud masses we've seen in a tropical system in the atlantic tropical basin. just unbelievable. and then, look at the path. this is the latest information on where this storm is and where

let's get the latest now from cbs news hurricane consultant david bernard. david? >> good evening, anthony. a lot of trouble up and down the east coast tonight. sandy is basically not a drop cam system anymore, but the effects are all going to be the same. let's start with where the storm is right now and, again, we are looking at very strong waves occurring all across ptions of the jersey and also long island sound. notice just offshore we're seeing some of these wave heights still indicated near 45 feet, maybe higher. and even though the storm is here, anthony, it's still pushing a lot of water in from the east and southeast. in fact, i was looking at some of the tide gauges in just the last few moments and places like the battery and even further east along the long island south and south along the jersey shore, those tides are reaching their highest levels of the day as we are nearing high tide in the next couple of hours. >> mason: david, we've talked about the storm surge. how does it work? >> when we talk about storm surge, we're talking about a lot of compo

come back to see us soon. >> thanks a lot, david. david: rouge on financial the latest u.s.d to be hit by a cyberattack. liz: this keeps happening to many financial institutions. fox business was the first to tell you about this story. we've been talking to you about it ever since. adam. >> what these attacks do is slow down the ability of a customer to get to your online accounts and maybe pay bills or transfer fund but regions now out of the fire. the next question though is, this group that claims responsibility for not only the attacks this week against suntrust, regions financial and capital one but also jpmorgan chase, bank of america and the new york stock exchange last month, they're claiming they will go forward. when they put out the threat this week and they said, this was the actually in the posting tuesday would be the attack on capital one. wednesday attack on suntrust banks. thursday attacks to regions financial. weekend, planning for the next week's attacks. you expect there to be sunday cocktails, monday, world domination. this is the schedule they put out b

david? >> we'll be watching for that. david kerley on the campaign trail in florida. david, thank you. >>> i want to bring in our senior washington editor rick klein tonight, and, rick, let's take another look at that gallup poll we showed. a tighter race already. we know it's a rolling average and still reflect s voters asked before the debate and still could be on the move and all eyes on the crucial battleground states. in colorado where the debate was held, a university of denver poll showing the president holding on to his lead in colorado, but, rick, both are watching the battlegrounds closely over the next week. >> those are the poll s that really matter at this stage. we see some signs of tightening but nothing dramatic yet. it looks like it shook the race but didn't upend it so still talking about a slight edge for president obama. >> you talked about mr. romney's debate performance. we know the vice presidential debate is this week and there had been memorable moments before. we re

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david plouffe. welcome back. >> good morning, david. >> governor christie says thursday morning the entire narrative of the race will change after the debates. looks like romney is expecting a good showing. >> i think governor christie is articulating what governor romney's campaign believes, that they'll change this race fundamentally. they talk about how this will be like 1980 and reagan surged to a huge lead. that's really the marker here. they set it out. they expect to come out of this with the race fundamentally changed. what does that mean? if it's going to fundamentally change that means in seven or 10 days from now you'll see states like ohio tied and iowa tied. so they have set the bar quite high. challengers tend to benefit from debates. we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he is prepared more than any candidate in history. and he has shown himself to be a very good debater through the years. so we understand that this is an important moment. we're just

advice conversations with great minds i'm joined by david frum david is a political commentator and journalist between two thousand and one two thousand and two he was a speechwriter and special assistant to then president george w. bush over the last few years david has been rather critical of today's republican party as well as the role of conservative media in american politics david is a contributing editor of both newsweek and the daily beast and also a contributor on c.n.n. he's the author of seven books including his newest his first novel patriots david joins me now in the studio dude welcome thanks you're as talented as it was an appropriate in an issue somebody has been critical of the republican party yes although i remain a conservative and a republican and i would like to see my. republicanism and my touchstone for that is a formulate that has to be environmentally responsible culturally modern and economically inclusive but every democracy has a party of the right and of the left america needs one too and i'm somebody who believes in market solutions but you're using the word con

a few other things inside the numbers here, david. in the midwest, romney a narrow lead, but way inside the margin of error. and among all of the collective battleground states a little bit of a lead for mitt romney. speaking of the battleground, i want to go there a minute. if you look at where both campaigns think each is ahead, the south, you've got to give it to romney here. they think narrowly ahead. for the president, they think nevada looks good for him and new hampshire. so then you look where is this race getting decided? those four states. colorado, david, might be the closest in the country, but it's the midwest. that is the ticket to 270 elect oral votes. >>> we'll be talking about these numbers as we get more. chuck, thank you for much. >>> joining me now, republican senator of florida marco rubio. senator, welcome back to "meet the press." >> glad to be back. thank you. >> let's talk where chuck left off about florida. looking at the president's schedule, he looks to be focusing a bit more on ohio. in your judgment, you'

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david? >> david kerley traveling with the romney campaign this weekend, david, thank you. >>> i want to bring in our senior washington editor rick klein tonight. let's gallup poll we showed. a tighter race already. a rolling average as we know and still reflects voters asked before the debate and still could be on the move and all eyes on the crucial battleground straights. in colorado where the debate was held, university of denver poll showing the president holding on to his lead in colorado and, rick, why are both campaigns watching these battleground states, the polls there so closely? >> because those are the polls that really matter at this stage. we've seen signs of tightening after the debate. nothing dramatic. looks like romney's strong performance shook the race but didn't up end it still a slight edge for president obama. >> we know the vice presidential debate this week. there have been memorable moments before. we remember this from four years ago. >> nice to meet you. hey, can

let me ask a before we do agree on the name and david pension please robert david is this democratic having a more federal union right now without asking the people themselves. well no i absolutely not i mean the you know consultation with the people you're governed with consent is the absolute bedrock of democracy and i agree with robert's a point to make an argument that the european union as currently structured is truly democratic is a pretty shaky one you know not least because the the commission isn't directly elected sure the european parliament is selective but that's one of the weaker components eyes the other guest says you know their choice has to be made in the us but that's where the contradiction lies with a lot of the not going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on european separatism stay with r.t. . if you. want to. own watches you every single day. and waiting for you to stumble. i saw a man with a video camera so i moved over and he phoned me some of them you know we realized there were following everyone from early in t

and out of sight of her husband david, she fatally loses control.wain would take the stand. and dark family secrets were about to be revealed. would they seal his fate or set him free? >>> coming up -- >> i've had decades of horrific things happen to me. >> a painful past and a dramatic turn of events. >> fighting for my life. >> the bombshell that came >>> we really need to remember that she was this incredible life force. and she had all this energy, positive energy. so every time it came around to the criminal trial, i thought please god let somebody find a way back to letting people know how wonderful she was. >> that special light of shelley tyre, dearly missed by so many who knew her. was her husband david swain responsible for taking it from the world? or was he an innocent man whose private ways had made a tragic accident only look like murder? a jury in a tortola courtroom would soon decide. but not before david swain himself took the stand to answer questions from his island attorney. >> mr. swain, when you went on the dive with shelley ty

david, we have to start with you, david maraniss, barack obama, is he capable of a two-fisted assaultpublic on an opponent? i have never seen him go at somebody aggressively. is that something he has in his tool kit or not? >> well, he has to have it in his tool kit tomorrow, but i think that actually the town hall format will help in that regard because it will allow him to come at romney from an angle, from the side. he can be very polite and civil and warm and ingratiating with the person asking the question and then go at romney, and that allows -- it makes it a little easier for someone like president obama who is inherently a little bit reluctant to confront and has a tendency to act too much like a constitutional law professor. i think this format will actually serve to his advantage. >> david corn, respond to that. if obama says i agree with you, i have done the following, i put -- i brought the auto industry back and some people disagreed with me, they thought we should let it go bankrupt, is that how you do it? inherently a little bit reluctant to confront and has a tendency

jump in where you say look david please. going in opposite direction and arguing that the european union should cease to exist altogether and it should break up into its component parts but the point then is where does it all ends where does our end but do you then remorseless germany to to its component parts to just escalate its component parts and where does the end of the u.k. do you have england boiled down to to its ancient came to you know you cannot apply blanket rules on this and all robert's comments are very specific to the southern european nations. because if an. hoa to scotland for your rationale. absolutely. i would ask also it's also most people in scotland want to stay within the united kingdom as you've already said in the polls haven't moved on that in that direction and more people in scotland wanting independence most in fact they've moved the other direction and most people want to stay within the ability to last in the but there still. has existed for over three hundred years or three hundred five year

all right cause they david cameron says it's time to seek retribution against. re offending criminals does that apply to the banks or is down the city as well or just hoodies i think in that particular instance it probably just refers to hoodies but you're right i mean i think there's a feeling that a lot of the activities in the city of london haven't been accounted for and unlike in america where the have been some high profile trials i think in britain we have really gone off if you like the group of people who may or may not have committed crimes this seems to be a remarkable disconnect between the words of the prime minister and the reality on the ground eventually gave a speech at the conservative conference in birmingham many saying that aspiration nation and he's people should play by the rules and he wants people to enjoy all of the benefits of privilege but each doesn't mention anything against you know barclays for example they keep going over and over and over again in crime after crime after crime but what i'm not sure about the issue with your part

david: we're focus on the