we saw the stock markets plunge. >> david: we did. >> rating downgrade. >> david: true.n shortly afterwards the stock market came back up and they ignored the debt rating cut. but extortion? the word "extortion' a strong word. the president seems to forget what he said, which would be called extortion by his definition as well. >> extortion is criminal. this president is grasping for straws because he knows that 53% of americans realize obamacare will drive their healthcare costs up. republicans are doing the right thing. this is risky business. they realize obamacare is not ready for the big debut. it will drive up cost and cut jobs. we have a lot of work that has to be done to implement this properly. >> david: but rick, on this debt issue. by the way, president obama is not the only one to commit hypocrisy. harry reid and nancy pelosi voted to raise the debt ceiling. >> i'm shocked. who knew the president was a politician? be care waffle you say in the senate. you may be in the white house some day. but david, i am struggling to see where you draw a comparison to what

>> david, it's absolutely true.other bank out there, bb&t that is punished because they tried to defy the government. having to take the tarp money. they didn't want to do it. they are being punished for it. so, jamie dimon is punished. he made it clear he did not like tarp money. he made it clear he was opposed to the president now. he is paying the price for it. jp morgan was the best run bank out there, one of the best run banks out there with a couple of others like wells fargo. they are getting big punishment. by the way, when the federal reserve is picking up the point out there, made the money cheap, the housing prices went up. everyone thought it was a natural law of the universe. prices would keep going up. if a borrower defaulted it didn't matter. the asset would be better than money good. >> david: last word from steve forbes. both parties continue the power struggle in washington this weekend, a new poll showing a record number of americans think the government has too much power. period. the "cashin' in

i needed my college degree. >> david: maybe th. >> yeah. >> david: stocks taking a hit worry with the of syria. we have stocks to ease your fear. don't miss this. it's up next. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mher! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actuay use, you never miss the fun. beard growing contest and go! ♪ win! what's in your wallet? >> david: we are back with the informer steady stocks for unsteady times. morgan, chrysler? >> pfizer, this is a safe habe. paying a dividend. >> david: emac, do you like the stock? >> revenue weakness because the key patent are expiring, like lipitor. watch out for that. >> david: they still have viagra. it not that i know about that. >> i like vanguard dividend growth. they are up 9% in the past five years. great managers, cheaply, who can manage the stock in and out. megacap st

david: how short?king at one to three year treasuries. >> well, it depends how much you can give up on the income. in that kind of take it. you can afford to make 1% or less. it's a balancing act versus loss of capital and income. david: you want to diversify. you say you obviously don't want all bonds. there are some stocks that kind of act like bonds. >> that's right. diversified portfolio for income. now was a decent time to consider a dividend type stocks. david: for example? >> well, we want to look get some of the big telecoms. things are not so grand. again, if you're going to lose capitol, the devil you know maybe better of the devil you don't know. the need to think about this as an investor. there is in come out there beyond just bonds. and i will also cautioned people. these are not the fixes you make for the next ten years. rates to change. you can always reassess. it behooves you to do some maintenance on your portfolio. david: and some people, as we know, chasing yields and will go to jun

david: emac, do you like the stock?revenue weakness because the key patent are expiring, like lipitor. watch out for that. >> david: they sill have viagra. it not that i know about that. >> i like vanguard dividend growth. they are up 9% in the past five years. great managers, cheaply, who can manage the stock in and out. megacap stock. >> david: morgan, you like it? >> i really like it but if you want more criminal or flexibility, check out the vanguard eps. vdig. >> david: good advice. thank you. that is it for "forbes on fox." have a great number one business block continues with eric bolling and "cashin' in." ♪ ♪ >> eric: it's the makers versus the takers this labor day weekend. as we kick back and enjoy the first of our waiver, some are feasting on governmenthand hand-out. >> awesome. >> taxpayers. >> so are all the hand-outs killing what made america great? good old fashioned hardwork? plus selling us out. government agencies making money off the private and the personal info. you won't believe what we found. and

david: wow. lori: mark sounds like the fed will dominate the headlines next week so how do you anticipate markets will react? >> yeah i think there will be some short-term volatility. obviously there are pretty major announcements on deck for the fed. for our clients and our investors are really focused what will happen over the next three years and if there is a short-term pullback over the course of the next few weeks we would definitely view that as a good buying opportunity. when we look out not three weeks, but rather three years down the road we think stocks are very fairly valued, attractively valued and we think there are good buying opportunities from investors. david: what are you expecting? tepper taper or mark tepper or more than a 5 billion-dollars taper? >> we're expecting a really pretty big taper effective as soon as possible. >> when you say pretty good what do you mean about that? 10 billion or more? less than what they have been buying? >> over 10 billion and i would expect eve

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. ♪ ♪ >> david: well, get this. very folks supporting the president the most are sll hurting the most. take a look at this. while the nation's unemployment rate is now at 7.3%. it's much higher for the president's biggest fans. meanwhile, household income, for those same groups dropping. much more than the national average. under this president. and some here saying this is proving the administration's policies are hurting, not helping. but are they right? , i'm david asman. welcome to "forbes on fox." john tandy, rick unger, elizabeth macdonald, is a dryia schaefer. and the very people who fought hardest for the re-election are the ones hurt the mostpy the policies. >> yes, they are. the research is clear. what is interesting is you must blame the obama administration. we have infinite wants and we get up to work to fulfill the wants. the only time economies are slow for extented period are when the government are putting up barriers to the tural ability to work. obamacare inhibits hiring hiring and government spen

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david: no.just about all unwanted merchandise regardless of the condition or how long they owned it. it will require the merchandise returned within one year purchase. apparently somebody came and sent back shoes for 15 years. david: like that hasn't been done before. number one thing to watch tomorrow, fomc two-day meeting. we won't find out until wednesday but federal reserve policy statement will be released at 12:30:00 p.m. on wall street. all the markets will look at that. liz: money with melissa is next. melissa: i'm melissa francis and here a what is money tonight. who will take over the fed now? larry summers is out. who should be in at the next fed chief? renowned economist john taylor joins us exclusive. he is my answer but i don't get to vote. so there you two go. >>> plus does money buy happiness? the age-old question is answered. but it turns over every assumption you had upside down. we're seting a all-star panel lose on this big money talker. you will love that one. >>> "who made

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david and liz, back to you.of people on wall street worried about a repeat what happened couple years ago. rich edson, thank you very much. liz: coming up the sec plans to play hard ball with banks when it comes to admitting wrongdoing, not just paying a fine and keeping your lips sealed. do the regulators have the muscle to go up against the big boys, firms like jpmorgan? david: also tomorrow of course we are all expecting the fed to begin modest tapering. i shouldn't say all. some people think they may stiff us in that. what our next guest says what we really need is a full-throttle move. the chief economist from socgen with a shocking plan how the central bank should end qes. as we head to break, look at youngest billionaires in the world. they made the forbes richest 400 list under the age of 40. biggest number of under 40 billionaire ever. ♪ at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatev

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and vietnam. >> david: it's a big impact -- >> and world warii. >> david: billboard from conservativehe healthcare law is hazardous to your health. the grocery store chain trader's joe is proven right. that's at the bottom of the hour on "cashin' in." but first on "forbes" trying to help housing deceiving homeowners is worth more than the house. is the best thing for housing? leave them be. that is next. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. (ding, ding) how long have i had my car insurance? i don't know, eight, ten years. i couldn't tell you but things were a lot less expensive back then. if you're 50 or over you should take a new look at your a

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david. that's for sure. here are a look at the front page headlines for you right now. it is about carl icahn, isn't it? the billionaire quote, thrown in the towel. he thinks so. in his fight to block a proposed buyout of pc-maker dell by founder michael dell. icahn says the battle would be almost impossible to win. david: owners -- by the way he still made 70 million bucks. not exactly a loss. owners of luxury retailer neiman marcus agreed to sell the company to ares management and the canada pension plan investment board for $6 billion. the deal marks the end of a year's long effort to sell the retailer. delta air lines. stock is surging today on news the carrier is going to join the s&p 500. the airline will be added to the index tomorrow. after the market closes. nicole already her little plastic plane ready to go. david: good for delta. investors ignored downbeat news about kfc and pizza hut parent yum! brands and pushed the stock higher. yum announced a big august sales decline in chin

david: will get rid of this watch? liz: no way. david: no way. regular watch. >>> president obama meanwhile raising the stakes with lawmakers in his fight to win approval for u.s. strikes in syria. we'll go to washington for the very latest what the senate foreign relations committee just decided this very afternoon. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it. liz: time for a quick speed read. some of the day's other headlines. five stories, one minute. euro business activity growing f

leave your people out, david. will never forget the exact thought that went through my head when i saw the flames. thank god those mothers will bring their children out now, and we waited and waited and waited, and they didn't bring their children out. >> the entire scene unfolds before a live tv audience. >> look at that. this is gorgeous. >> there is tear gas that started on fire or something. >> it's the reality of the situation. >> it was quick. the structure was like a wooden match. we never stopped our negotiation efforts. we continued right up until i turned off the speakers on that last day at 12:35 in the afternoon. >> everyone was in tears. we could all see the faces of the children. we all knew who they were. we had seen them. and that's what we were dedicated to doing, was trying to rescue those kids out of there. and that had all gone up in smoke and we knew that they were all dying and there was nothing that we could do about it. >> the viewers that may just be tuning in to cnn, it's day 51 in waco,

and vietnam. >> david: it's a big impact -- >> and world warii. >> david: billboard from conservative claim the healthcare law is hazardous to your health. the grocery store chain trader's joe is proven right. that's at the bottom of the hour on "cashin' in." but first on "forbes" trying to help housing deceiving homeowners is worth more than the house. is the best thing for housing? leave them be. that is next. [ female announcer ] who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours. she took an early spring break thanks to her double miles from the capital one venture card. now what was mrs. davis teaching? spelling. that's not a subject, right? i mean, spell check. that's a program. algebra. okay. persons a and b are flying to the bahamas.

david: buying on the news. billionaire steve cohen, sac capital hedge fund as prosecutors talk about a possible deal to end the insider trading criminal case against the firm. liz: sales of new single family homes rising about 7.9% last month to an annual rate of 421,000. but the increase did not make up for the steep decline in sales back in july. david: orders support durable goods went up by just .1% in august. this is a possible sign the company is beginning to hold back a little on spending because of uncertainty over federal budget and a lot of other things. liz: setback for boeing in china. of airbus won contracts for nearly 70 a 320 aircraft worth $6 billion at list prices. david: iconic footwear company is close to a deal to sell itself. the company is in advance talks with an interested buyer. we have a lot going on in the next hour. you don't want to miss a minute of it. "after the bell" starts right now. liz: they better not change the yellow shoelaces on doc martin that is priority. david: she know

david: it is not.g you might think about ducks or deers but how about hunting for these things. drones. no laughing matters for hunters in one town in colorado. details when we go off the desk. ♪ at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. david: time to go "off the desk." hunters in a small colorado town are lining up for a hot new license to shoot down these government drones. a $24 license. only symbolic. until the town holds an election to authorize them, already a thousand people applied for them. liz: also "off the desk," the first robot to speak in aerospace. cute. just over 13 inches tall. the japanese words for open robot, developed by a consortium of companies which includes to riatas and a group of scientists. launched from japan's national space center on august 1st and docked with th

david: okay. well, on a day when the market is up 12points on the dow, keep it with a positive tone. clearly investors feel that way today. good to see you, randy thank you very much. randy warren. appreciate it. larry shover we'll check in with you in a couple minutes for the s&p futures close. thanks, gentleman. >>> the wait is over. apple finally unveiling the new iphone line. will they be a game-changer in the smartphone wars or fall flat with consume officers wall street's reaction is not very encouraging. in a moment we have an all-star panel of what apple's future will be. speaking of tech, liz claman in silicon valley with exclusive interviews. yes, she has more on tap this hour. liz. liz: one. exciting things you see here in silicon valley, david, is entrepreneurs that are serial entrepreneurs, they start one company, sell it to another and start up another. they are continually flexible. he started stubhub. sold it to ebay. and now enables video conversations with average people of peopl

and vietnam. >> david: it's a big impact -- >> and world warii. >> david: billboard from conservative claim the healthcare law is hazardous to your health. the grocery store chain trader's joe is proven right. that's at the bottom of the hour on "cashin' in." but first on "forbes" trying to help housing deceiving homeowners is worth more than the house. is the best thing for housing? leave them be. that is next. >> david: so-called fix for housing that some here say will just make it worse. city council members in richmond, california, passing the plan to seize underwater mortgages, loans that are worth more than the actual house. they say this will keep people in their homes and help home values. number of other cities across the nation are considering doing the same thing. but rich, you say this is all going to backfire. how? >> well, rich monday gets the idea from the neighbor berkeley, which is havana on the bonthe bay. this is foolish. the only way you get a mark of recovery is if you let the prices drop to natural level. there is money in the bay area that would invest if it fou

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liz: david uses it. david goes on there.id: i have to admit not so much as i used to because of competition. >> i used it recently. i got a great deal on gillette razor blades. think -- liz: razor blades. >> which you know is very expensive. that is the upside of gillette's business model. liz: hop on the website. check it out as we look at this. again tom is bullish. he has the $13 price target. is it too expensive to jump into the stock? >> no. if you look at strategy which i think is very sound and look at early stage of rolling it out and i think the benefits are to come. i think there is more good news from groupon. liz: do you anticipate living social will go public at some point? >> if you asked mee that year ago i would say yes. now i'm not certain. liz: i would agree with that assessment because of how tough it is for groupon but maybe it's a management issue. >> if you look at daily deals market they had hyper-growth and growing pains. living social is doing a good job. you have a lot of venture cap companies exit

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we were up 123 points, david. at the high of the session. david: well off of those. it was in the red. looks like it will end in the green. good point to look at your front page headlines. manufacturing activity in the united states picked up last month at the fastest pace in more than two years. the ism manufacturing index rose to 55.7 in august. a reading above 50 indicates expanding economic activity. liz: here's some good news. construction spending in july, rising to the highest level in nearly five years. the commerce department reporting rose, .6 of a percent. david: here you are on the front page. verizon agreed to pay $130 billion for vodafone's 45% stake in verizon. how many thought they made a mistake when reading that headline. the purchase was unanimously approved bit boards of both companies. it is expected to close in the first quarter of next year. liz: target gearing up to launch a new video streaming service to compete with netflix and itunes. the new service promises instant access to 15,000 movie titles, new releases, classic movies and next day t

david hartley's mother can barely control her emotions. >> what happened to david and tiffany was anct of terror, plain and simple. it was a senseless violence, but it was an act of terror. and that is not going to end at the border. it is over here already. >> and for tiffany herself, it is even more troubling. >> do you think your husband is a victim of -- in a way, politics? >> i would say a victim of terrorism. of politics. and -- the way of life of mexico. and the politics, i think there is too many connections between u.s. and mexico, too much money going back and forth. >> connections, you mean in a criminal way? >> in a money way. i think it is all the money. >> in the air over border country, captain stacey holland says the financial stakes are so high for the drug cartels that money takes precedence over everything else. >> so what the state is faced with and the nation, really, is an aggressive narcotics smuggling ring or cartels, their interest lies in their inventory, and that is what they're going to do, is anything to protect their inventory. >> and that includes the c

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david: all right.est buy and as you know they're selling, pretty well i guess they're selling best buy for 150 bucks. they have these customer reviews on best buy. now, out of five stars, you get an average of 3.5, which actually is not bad because they tend to be very critical a lot of these people. some of the positive comments, one is, my pebble works 99% of the time. it looks smashing. i'm absolutely thrilled with the quality and design. that is a positive. but i have to throw out a couple negatives as well. somebody gave you one star, said, very shaky quality. over the course of two weeks the screen begun to develop bruises as if it was put under pressure. then another person who gave you two stars, said, the battery died and i charged it. it ran great for another three days and then shut down overnight. i recharged and now it is experiencing random reboots. factory reset does not appear to help. i'm returning it today. so what is the return rate now of your watches? >> i think our return rate is

david hartley's mother can barely control her emotions. >> what happened to david and tiffany was anle. it was a senseless violence, but it was an act of terror. and that is not going to end at the border. it's over here already. >> reporter: and for tiffany herself, it is even more troubling. >> do you think your husband is a victim of, in a way, politics? >> i would say a victim of terrorism. politics. and the way of life of mexico. and the politics -- i think there's too many connections between u.s. and mexico, too much money going back and forth. >> connections you mean in a criminal way? >> in a money way. i think it's all money. >> in the air over border country, captain stacy holland says the financial stakes are so high for the drug cartels that money takes precedence over everything else. >> so what the state's faced with and the nation really is an aggressive narcotics smuggling ring or cartels that their interest lies in their inventory. so that's what they're going to protect. and they're going to do whatever means necessary to protect their inventory. >> in the case of

just a couple of days ago we reached david on the phone. hi, david? he is still at it.g to rent us an apartment in new york. we sent you 1850 bucks, to rent a house in nantucket. you were supposed to meet us with the key but you never came. how many people have you ripped off? how many people have you stolen money from? expletive. he said he is not a criminal, he says he is in brooklyn. i don't think so. ryan's family didn't end up with their dream house, but still had a dreamy vacation. and so did the mccaffrey clan in lake tahoe, who found a great vacation. never let them book your vacation. well, the website tells us they are actively collecting data about these crimes, and if you have been taken, providing details to the fbi may ultimately help them catch the crooks. for more information visit our website at abcnews.com/night line. >>> next, what company is behind that beer you're drinking? the answer may surprise you. >> abc "nightline," brought to you by hotels.com. anna, your hotels have wondrous waffle bars. ryan, your hotels' robes are fabulous. i have twelve o

david hartley's mother can barely control her emotions. >> what happened to david and tiffany was and simple. it was a senseless violence, but it was an act of terror. and that is not going to end at the border. it is over here already. >> and for tiffany herself, it is even more troubling. >> do you think your husband is a victim of -- in a way, politics? >> i would say a victim of terrorism. of politics. and -- the way of life of mexico. and the politics, i think there is too many connections between u.s. and mexico, too much money going back and forth. >> connections, you mean in a criminal way? >> in a money way. i think it is all the money. >> in the air over border country, captain stacey holland says the financial stakes are so high for the drug cartels that money takes precedence over everything else. >> so what the state is faced with and the nation, really, is an aggressive narcotics smuggling ring or cartels, their interest lies in their inventory, and that is what they're going to do, is anything to protect their inventory. >> and that includes the cartel, inflicting its

david? >> jeff zeleny tonight, thank you. >>> meanwhile, in syria tonight, anger from rebel groups, some of whom were counting on the u.s. to help weaken president assad's hand. and from president assad himself, confidence tonight, on the phone with iran. as many who support him think they've won. abc's chief foreign correspondent terry moran is in our beirut bureau tonight. terry? >> reporter: david, there was relief, astonishment and a sense of triumph in the air in syria and right across this region in response to president obama's decision to delay that military strike until after he gets congressional approval, if he gets it. syrian government leaders crowed that they had intimidated the president into backing down. and arab social media was on fire with jokes and mocking what was perceived as the president's indecision and hesitation. in israel, worry and concern at the american commitment to this region. and among the syrian rebel forces, there was despair. smoke billowed from shellin

tiffany and david hartley learned firsthand. mexican police were not to be trusted. >> for one instance, he was coming home from the bank after cashing our rent check and police pulled him over, followed him from the bank, pulled him over, had him step out, punched him in the face and stole his money. >> david, she says, saw someone get shot on the street. did you sense it was getting more dangerous? >> you could. yeah. you could sense it. you'd hear more about it. >> what did it look like? describe how you would pick out a cartel member? >> their trucks at that time had their name. the cdt or the z for the zetas. they had actually marked their vehicles with their name and who they were. >> david convinced his company to allow him at least to live on the american side of the border in mccallon. soon afterwards, the company told david he was being offered another transfer, back home to colorado. to his mom that was a blessing. >> they were going to be home that next week looking for a house to move into. i mean, we were excited a

david. in 11 days obamacare's health exchanges go live. we've told you about what they cover but what about the price? that's going to depend on a number of things so here is a little primer, on what to expect if you don't already get covered for by work. >> doctors visits and trips to the hospital. these are the reasons to buy health insurance. a 40-year-old will pay about $190 a month for a plan in portland, oregon and $395 for the same plan in burlington, vermont. one reason, in oregon there are 11 insurers, and fewer in vermont. there are other factors that affect who you pay and who your neighbors are. pricing their plans higher because of the state's large elderly population. if you are in a state like new york or california where rates have been the most expensive because of guaranteed coverage like maternity care prices could drop as competition increases and more people get insured. >> in california we already had maternity coverage and prohibited gender based pricing. but throughou

>> no, david. if you look at the prohibition against the use of chemical weapons, it goes back more than 100 years. in fact, it was then ratified in the chemical weapons convention by the republican-led senate working with president clinton in 1997 where they passed it in a bipartisan way. this is a bipartisan thing, an international standard. >> is the united states just an equal partner on the international stage? or are we the world's leader? >> there's no question that we're the world's leader. >> it appeared he was trying to distance himself from his own credibility. he is the one who said, if he used a bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized that would change my calculus, that would change my equation. hasn't the president of the united states put his credibility on the line saying you do this, if you cross this line, you're in trouble? >> declarer to policy is something we do all over the world. and we set very clear -- communicate very clear signals to our adversaries so t

look, david's a very smart guy and i like david, but the fact that people get passes, 70,000-page irs manual right now. everybody gets passeses if you can buy off these crooked politicians which is what the big lobbying groups do and if you have influence, you get that done. this is a problem that's come with health care, about $190 billion is what they're asking for. that is going to come out of the rest of us that are paying taxes in this. this is a free pass. it costs a lot of money, not to them. >> just reiterate that there's no pass on the table for discussions. >> but they're asking for one. they're asking for one, okay? >> that's a right for everyone to ask, petition their government to do that. >> and if you got power, they'll do it. david is right in the sense that the health care lobby got more in this bill than the union lobby. that's why their stocks are rocking and rolling, because they're not getting any punishment. their type of punishment will be taken by some people. this plan benefits some lower income workers, it hurts other people. that's how it works. it needs --