emily: we talked to david albert, the creator of walking dead. ey have been working on a virtual-reality walking dead series. this is what he had to say. david: i think vr is a fantastic opportunity to tell stories. it is a different medium. you don't have the ability to control what people are looking, but you are still able to craft an environment where people can tell stories. i think that ability is a great opportunity and i think hollywood will tell more stories inside of vr. emily: what is your take on that? richard: a lot of people are interested in telling a story where you think you were there. you cannot control where people are looking. it is like live theater that way. you could be looking anywhere on the stage, but you do have ways where they can cue you to where the action is happening. lucas: is the thought that gaming will be first? the sense i get from most movie producers is that alpert's series is an experiment. it is mostly marketing around a project. your idea is eventually people will spend hours watching something. richard:

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