first of all, i was the last mp to see david amess alive. together , had a great carter together, had a great trip, and he was dead. 36 hours later, kim leopard 2 friend of mine, she's been outspoken recently about this and she's absolutely right . so the threats absolutely right. so the threats are there we're not sure what the threats are. the threats are many. and i think it's incumbent upon all of us as mps to do what we can to protect ourselves. but that's not just about physical protection. it's also counter—surveillance . it's about counter—surveillance. it's about understanding what the threats are briefings in are. it's about briefings in westminster and becoming part of the solution. because unless we part of the solution for our own security, we will always be at risk. tony what sort of things you might have in mind? first of all, tell me about your own personal security. well, are personal security. well, we are very careful. don't advertise very careful. we don't advertise surgeries in advance. we have surgeries in advance. we h

first of all, i was the last mp to see david amess alive.ck from carter together , had a great carter together, had a great trip, and he was dead. 36 hours later, kim leopard 2 friend of mine, she's been outspoken recently about this and she's absolutely right . so the threats absolutely right. so the threats are there we're not sure what the threats are. the threats are many. and i think it's incumbent upon all of us as mps to do what we can to protect ourselves. but that's not just about physical protection. it's also counter—surveillance . it's about counter—surveillance. it's about understanding what the threats are briefings in are. it's about briefings in westminster and becoming part of the solution. because unless we part of the solution for our own security, we will always be at risk. tony what sort of things you might have in mind? first of all, tell me about your own personal security. well, are personal security. well, we are very careful. don't advertise very careful. we don't advertise surgeries in advance. we have surgeries in

we went on to plot a attack that resulted in the of mp david amess . then the of mp david amess.the terrorist behind the parsons green shoe bombing the terrorist responsible for the 2020 stress, the stabbings , the 2020 stress, the stabbings, the terrorist who murdered three gay men in a redding park in 2020. all of them were referred prevent the most chilling line from shawcross today was this i am concerned that a culture of timidity exists among practitioners in round when it comes to tackling islamism. if left as it is a potentially fatal blindspots will emerge and grow . as i've been saying on grow. as i've been saying on this show for the past two years, if we continue to turn a blind eye to home—grown islamist terrorism , the biggest terrorist terrorism, the biggest terrorist to the uk . and sadly, i have no to the uk. and sadly, i have no doubt many more innocent lives are going to be lost in the years to come. to respond. now my superstar panel, the political commentator suzanne evans , the businessman and evans, the businessman and activist adam brookes and the broadcas

we went on to plot a attack that resulted in the of mp david amess . then the of mp david amess.terrorist behind the parsons green shoe bombing the terrorist responsible for the 2020 stress, the stabbings , the 2020 stress, the stabbings, the terrorist who murdered three gay men in a redding park in 2020. all of them were referred prevent the most chilling line from shawcross today was this i am concerned that a culture of timidity exists among practitioners in round when it comes to tackling islamism. if left as it is a potentially fatal blindspots will emerge and grow . as i've been saying on grow. as i've been saying on this show for the past two years, if we continue to turn a blind eye to home—grown islamist terrorism , the biggest terrorist terrorism, the biggest terrorist to the uk . and sadly, i have no to the uk. and sadly, i have no doubt many more innocent lives are going to be lost in the years to come. to respond. now my superstar panel, the political commentator suzanne evans , the businessman and evans, the businessman and activist adam brookes and the broadcaster

seven including the murder that mp david amess.n were committed by young men who had previously been referred to prevent. so i'm not so sure that it's working all that well. but we're living in a community here that is a third white british, third muslim, and a third other. it's been through huge demographic change. and frankly , social cohesion . in frankly, social cohesion. in a town like luton is the single most important this place has to work together and not be divided. well, joining me is dr. sheikh ramsey and director of the oxford islamic information centre . if i can say dr. ramsey centre. if i can say dr. ramsey , before we get into the meat of this, perhaps some thoughts about what's happened in the last two or three days in turkey and syria. yes, nigel, my condolence condolence to the whole victims of the turkey and the and the syria's earthquake, which was awful, of course, as all owners , around 15,000 or all owners, around 15,000 or more or more been had died. and is at the moment, unfortunately the weather is —15.

seven including the murder that mp david amess.n were committed by young men who had previously been referred to prevent. so i'm not so sure that it's working all that well. but we're living in a community here that is a third white british, third muslim, and a third other. it's been through huge demographic change. and frankly , social cohesion . in frankly, social cohesion. in a town like luton is the single most important this place has to work together and not be divided. well, joining me is dr. sheikh ramsey and director of the oxford islamic information centre . if i can say dr. ramsey centre. if i can say dr. ramsey , before we get into the meat of this, perhaps some thoughts about what's happened in the last two or three days in turkey and syria. yes, nigel, my condolence condolence to the whole victims of the turkey and the and the syria's earthquake, which was awful, of course, as all owners , around 15,000 or all owners, around 15,000 or more or more been had died. and is at the moment, unfortunately the weather is —15.

they will look at the murder sid david amess the murder of sid david amess and were very, very and theye every right to be they have dealt to be and they have dealt with this way that they think this in a way that they think shocks down any criticism the shocks down any criticism of the way handled it, but also way they've handled it, but also protected yeah, protected the in question. yeah, i understand the difficulty i do understand the difficulty and you know the concerns are legitimate. yeah the right to be nervous but like come back to this point that i think societally be a bit more societally we to be a bit more strong on this issue. absolutely. so you first, andrew, everybody and andrew, and everybody helps and we we've got we are okay. we've got a question from lesley. is question from lesley. where is lesley? hi, leslie. why should we follow florida's example and ban gender studies and diversity at universities? so this is interesting. this bill has been introduced in florida. this would basically give ron desantis power over state schools . it would allow him to schools. it w

and i was having a day off , actual day off having a day off, actual day off when we lost a day david amess you know, we had to clear the, you know, clear the office case of, you know, other issues and, you know, get people home, get them to their families. so we do this job with our staff and we need to look after them, protect them, and we have to take as much safety precautions as possible . and i precautions as possible. and i want to continue to do the job in in a local and connected way . that's why we're here. final question you are a minister in the department for work and pensions . do you ever cringe pensions. do you ever cringe when of your colleagues, a minority say people wouldn't have to use foodbanks if they knew house budget department work and pensions the department of wonderful people has twice called the most amazing people brilliant job centres up and down the land, helping people in any circumstance . and i think any circumstance. and i think i've just described to you times where you need to turn for help andifs where you need to turn for help and it's really importan

and i was having a day off , actual day off having a day off, actual day off when we lost a day david amess you know, we had to clear the, you know, clear the office case of, you know, other issues and, you know, get people home, get them to their families. so we do this job with our staff and we need to look after them, protect them, and we have to take as much safety precautions as possible . and i precautions as possible. and i want to continue to do the job in in a local and connected way . that's why we're here. final question you are a minister in the department for work and pensions . do you ever cringe pensions. do you ever cringe when of your colleagues, a minority say people wouldn't have to use foodbanks if they knew house budget department work and pensions the department of wonderful people has twice called the most amazing people brilliant job centres up and down the land, helping people in any circumstance . and i think any circumstance. and i think i've just described to you times where you need to turn for help andifs where you need to turn for help and it's really importan

one of them being the murder of david amess .that have been attacked, targeted and suffered because of this scheme potentially not tackling things correctly have been abused? i would say that you could definitely . yeah, indeed. david, definitely. yeah, indeed. david, thank you very much short and sweet. but that's just the way it is at the end of this particular show, i'm afraid. david, i really appreciate your time. just have a won't be time. i just have a won't be long until i talk to you again. international human rights lawyer that david lawyer just that david amess case. really thought that tory case. i really thought that tory mp murdered by mp was suddenly murdered by a jihadi. i really thought that that a watershed that was going to be a watershed moment depressed. when moment when depressed. when one of their when one of their of their own, when one of their own the mp was slaughtered by own as the mp was slaughtered by this individual thought be this individual thought would be a point. i was i've a turning point. and

out of 13 terror attacks over the last six years, including the murder of my good friends, the david amessied out by extremists who had been referred to the inefficiently named prevent the organisations as the report puts too much emphasis on the threat from white right wing extremist at the expense of neglecting the greater danger from islamist terrorists , partly from islamist terrorists, partly because of a fear of being accused of , being racist, accused of, being racist, anti—muslim or culturally insensitive . first ordered by insensitive. first ordered by the former home secretary priti patel back in 2019. the report makes 34 recommendations that have all been accepted in full by her successor, suella braverman you have to wonder how things can go so badly wrong. in a moment , things can go so badly wrong. in a moment, speak to a sikh from the henry jackson society. but first, i'm joined by sir peter farley , former chief constable farley, former chief constable of manchester police and previously the national police lead on prevent . and professor lead on prevent. and professor anth

she lists manchester, the london bridge and borough market fishmongers hall, the murder of sir david amess absolutely clear. so we can all focus in our heads, all these things are happening and we who's committing them. we know who's committing them. so start bringing out all so don't start bringing out all the tributaries in this investigation to try and water things down. no, i think that's important . things down. no, i think that's important. but i think the question up about why is it this why is this happening? why are more people being reported for right wing extremism? i think it's important it's a really, really important question . and to it seems question. and to me, it seems that the people who are doing the rafah things , that's police the rafah things, that's police officers teach social workers, they to see people who get they tend to see people who get into islamic extremism as victims , as being mentally ill victims, as being mentally ill or most or being vulnerable and kind of having been lured into this kind of accidentally in that they need looking after. and for me, th

they will look at the murder of sid david amess and were very, very and they were very, very worried. dealt with to be and they have dealt with this that they think this in a way that they think shocks down any criticism of the way it, but also way they've handled it, but also protected question. yeah, protected the in question. yeah, i understand the difficulty i do understand the difficulty and you know the concerns are legitimate. yeah the right to be nervous but like come back to this point i think this point that i think societally to be bit more societally we to be a bit more strong on this issue. absolutely. so you first, andrew, everybody and andrew, and everybody helps and we we've got we are okay. we've got a question from lesley. is question from lesley. where is lesley? hi, leslie. why should we follow florida's example and ban gender studies and diversity at universities? so this is interesting. this bill has been introduced in florida. this would basically give ron desantis power over state schools . it would allow him to schools. it would allow him to ban it. but i shou

after it was revealed that some of roald dahl�*s mr amess books have been updated to make the most suitable for modern audiences. our arts correspondent david has gone and it is one of a number of changes made to the writing to make it lessjudgmental and avoid words like crazy in fact. however, this rewriting to avoid offence has itself created an upset. we don�*t seem to think children can we don't seem to think children can cope with _ we don't seem to think children can cope with words like fat any more. we have _ cope with words like fat any more. we have to — cope with words like fat any more. we have to protect children from distressing feelings and i think that idea is causing all sorts of problems— that idea is causing all sorts of problems in society. you see it in all sorts— problems in society. you see it in all sorts of— problems in society. you see it in all sorts of places and we need to make _ all sorts of places and we need to make children more resilient. the roald dahl story company said today any changes had been small and carefully considered. it�*s also worth noting there is a precedent. this isn�*t the first time roald