tell us whom he thinks religious votes could be going, ewtn, the catholic television station, david arroyos an idea how big the catholic vote is. that is how much you're plugged into. >> sure. david: 25% of all voters, 33 million people are registered as roman catholics, or define themselves as roman catholics. inin 2012 election he took over 50%. >> where the catholics go, the people follow. they're not all church-goers. but culturally identify like that. trump tapped into those people. in the primaries he overwhelmingly won majority of catholics in places like massachusetts, 56%, florida. these are bellwether state where he has taken that middle. david: among catholic intellectuals there has been a lot of talk whether or not trump has commitment to catholic values. >> look, i have had these conversations as i tell my friends, you're not electing a messiah, you're electing a president. ronald reagan was divorcee. david: jack kennedy was great president in many ways but clintonian in his pursuit of women. >> i'm glad you said that and i didn't. look, seems we're holding trump to some imagi