call now: 1-855-376-1361. >> melissa: think you to my good friend, david asman. impingement for the next two years. what you think the president fix of that? >> david: i think it's "bring it on." we have seen from this president, like no other president in my lifetime, he appreciates attacks and turns them around on his enemies quickly. he seems to be fine with these attacks. >> melissa: to fire up his base, to work on other things. >> david: and to use that as a subterfuge for getting things done. >> melissa: we are back at noon eastern tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: fox news alert, well into the government shutdown at this point. day 17 pray the white house and sing the president will head to the southern border later this week, and that he has made it ct it's a national emergency to build the border wall. let's go to "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. the partial government shutdown heading into its third week. the republicans and democrats fighting over border security. admits region officials and staffers met over the weekend but failed to

i'm david asman. joining me, susan li, carol roth, john rayfield with global growth fears and uncertainty over china trade deal flaming thoughts today. the dow plummeting 300 points on news the justice department will continue to purse you the extradition of huawei ceo if she's not released. many believe the report last week that china deal was imminent. if you are watching "bulls & bears" on friday, you already know the administration was discounting those reports. roll tape. >> nothing has been resolved. no contract. i want to be an optimist about china trade. the president has indicated a certain amount of optimism about china trade. communicating with chinese president xi. some of these news reports are simply inaccurate. david: are we ever going to make a trade deal in china? >> i'm optimistic that we have a long way to get there. it seems like reports are saying they need to move on structural issues like intellectual property protection and transfer of technology. something china might massage

i'm david asman.rayfield with global growth fears and uncertainty over china trade deal flaming thoughts today. the dow plummeting 300 points on news the justice department will continue to purse you the extradition of huawei ceo if she's not released. many believe the report last week that china deal was imminent. if you are watching "bulls & bears" on friday, you already know the administration was discount

david: good evening, i'm david asman. lou has the night off. in less than two hours the president is going to address the nation in the oval office to address the national security crisis along the southern border. the president will make his case fur the border wall, a demand he's continually called for during the shutdown. >> the united states needs a physical barrier, a wall to stop illegal immigration and the deadly inflow of drugs and crime. without a wall you cannot have border security. it will not work. having drones and other forms are all fine but they're not going to stop the problems this country has. we can call u a national emergency and open it quickly. the border is a dangerous problem, a much bigger problem. i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. i call it doing what you have to do for the benefit and the safety of our country. we have an absolute crisis and criminals and gang members coming through. we have to have border security. if we don't have border security we're going to be crime ridden and

it's david asman and bulls & bears starting right now. ernment shutdown now just two days from becoming the longest in u.s. history, and the impact is growing, we are live on capitol hill, and along the texas border with the very latest. this is bulls & bears, thanks for joining us everybody i'm david asman joining me on the panel christina p, jonathan hoen ig, kevin kelly and robert wolf. so president trump now on his way back to the white house after visiting the texas border this is a fight over wall funding continues, the president tweeting this earlier. because of the democrats and transients on border security and the great importance of our safety and for our nation i am respectfully canceling my very

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel today.oducer who is with us. chad, the purpose behind the vice president's meeting with house republicans today, what is it? >> this is to brief them on what the situation is on the border and give them some facts a

it's david asman and bulls & bears starting right now. david: the partial government shutdown now just two days from becoming the longest in u.s. history, and the impact is growing, we are live on capitol hill, and along the texas border with the very latest. this is bulls & bears, thanks for joining us everybody i'm david asman joining me on the panel christina p, jonathan hoen ig, kevin kelly and robert wolf. so president trump now on his way back to the white house after visiting the texas border this is a fight over wall funding continues, the president tweeting this earlier. because of the democrats and transients on border security and the great importance of our safety and for our nation i am respectfully canceling my very important trip to davos, switzerland for the world economic forum, my warmest regards and apologies to the wef it had been reported that the president would likely meet with china's vice president and/or possibly with the president xi in davos to continue some trade talks between the nations. it's not a possibilit

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel today. let's go straight to fox news senior capitol producer who is with us. chad, the purpose behind the vice president's meeting with house republicans today, what is it? >> this is to brief them on what the situation is on the border and give them some facts and figures in anticipation of the president's address to the nation tonight. the homeland security secretary nielsen just walked past us here at the capitol. she's going down stairs and brief house republican members here, mick mulvaney, the white house chief of taf is also here -- chief of staff is also here. some of the things we have been hearing from democrats, they have been indicating they will vote starting tomorrow on a series of appropriations bills to reopen the government. they will start with financial services appropriation bill that deals with the treasury. democrats are saying what this is from their perception is a meeting to try to keep republicans together. i talked with a freshman house republican a few minutes ago

charles: david asman with us as well. your writing on this, you point out there's this industry that's developed, student aid industry. people go where the money is. it's not an emotional argument. they just go where the money is. there's a lot of money in the student aid program. there would be a lot more if some democrats get their dream and we have so-called free education, free college education, but that's really driving a lot of these admissions, people who shouldn't be in colleges, is these student aid programs get paid for it. >> and there's the belief out there this will help poor students. and it may help them in some way but you have to remember, most kids who are going to college are not poor. this will be mostly a middle class entitlement. we are also graduating fewer poor kids today than we were 50 years ago even with the increase in student aid. charles: that goes back to your k through 12. watered-downgrades, watered-down tests, to me it's fascinating we allow these local education systems to do that, to g

compliment larry kudlow because he came on the fox business network this afternoon talking with david asmannd he set the record straight about the fraudulent nonsense con injured up by anti-trump forces within the white house and the fraudulent reporting fake news has been only too glad to spread. >> some of these news reports are simply inaccurate and incorrect. that doesn't meaning in the next several months or so we can't have the very good deal on china trade. all right? i'm not ruling it out. but i'm saying these reports are suggesting things are done, things are agreed to. the technology stuff has not been dealt with. the enforcement stuff has not been dealt with. the commodities stuff, the tariff rates. we are moving on the right track, okay? i want to be optimistic here. we are being positive. but people are filing news reports as though things are already done fait accompli. it is not so. lou: it is not so says the president's economic counselor. as if the president didn't have to deal with resistance and opposition from the radical dimms, rinos, the business round table, k street,

"bulls & bears" with david asman starts right now. david: we have breaking news. shares of apple trading higher after hours. the tech company beating expectations for the first quarter on the top and bottom line but it is not all good news. we are monitoring the conference call with tim cook and other executives now under way as the company battles a new privacy scandal involving facetime. the headlines still pouring in from the report as well. we will bring you everything you need to know. first let's bring in the panel. susan li has been following all of the numbers from apple for the past half hour. carol roth, gary b. smith, robert wolf and we are joined by john meyer. john, let's not try to sugar coat it. this is the first quarterly decline in both revenue and profit in about ten years for the month of december, including the month of december, but they had built expectations so low, it's hard to go any lower, right? >> correct. the other thing that i think is extremely notable here is the year over year china revenue decline, which i think according to my ma

"bulls & bears" with david asman starts right now. david: we have breaking news.ding higher after hours. the tech company beating expectations for the first quarter on the top and bottom line but it is not all good news. we are monitoring the conference call with tim cook and other executives now under way as the company battles a new privacy scandal involving facetime. the headlines still pouring in from the report as well. we will bring you everything you need to know. first let's bring in the panel. susan li has been following all of the numbers from apple for the past half hour. carol roth, gary b. smith, robert wolf and we are joined by john meyer. john, let's not try to sugar coat it. this is the first q

i'm david asman. the president is the pricing anywhere and it's the first time he's appeared in anyone. >> unusual. one of the things we expected everything from press secretary sarah sanders to talk about portable funding but it seemed the president was having a meeting and the oval office with border patrol agents and head of the unions related to the border talking about border issues. president said he had an idea why don't we go talk to the media. took the opportunity to bring agents out and give their side of the story but would like on the border. they need that border wall or some barrier between here and next go. it says the agents came out saying they need that barrier because it works in areas that do not have it and they saw flood of illegal immigrants and criminals come across the border and when the wall went up it had significant exponential is the word one agent used the amount of illegal crossings cut back. president making his case directly to america people after having this meeting

i'm david asman thanks for joining us today. joining me is the panel today.tisan meeting this afternoon with top congressional leaders. let's go straight to edward lawrence at the white house. what happened >> it was a tale of two views of this same meeting. president donald trump did walk out of the meeting that he had called with house and senate

i'm david asman and liz, gary and kevin and jack will join us.ith stocks getting up big dynamite jobs report blown away expectations but when stratospheric after the fed share strongly suggested rate hike would be put on hold for a while. further supporting confirmation there will be a meeting between us and china trade reps on monday. the president celebrating these market movers at the white house this afternoon. president trump: 312,000 jobs was a two-minute number and obviously having a big impact on the stock market. economy is good and remember from the time of my election the stock market has gone up very close to 30% and that is where with all the things happening and there are a lot of things happening. massive trade negotiation on the china president xi is very much involved in so in my. we're dealing at the highest levels and doing very well. david: lot of if but if you get a deal with china and if the fed rate hikes on pause how high will these markets go? what do you think? >> i tell you what, the we could go back to old highs. the p

this is bulls & bears we're glad you to join us i'm david asman joining me we have liz peek, jonathan hoenig, christina partsinevelos and carry kaltbaum on day 31, according to numbers from the white house we've lost more than a half a percentage point of our gdp for the quarter , so far, of course we could get that back as soon as the things get working again, the clock is ticking though for lawmakers to reach a deal. federal workers are set to miss another pay day this friday. let's go straight to fox news senior capitol hill producer, chad the president came out with a plan on saturday and nancy pelosi rejected it, even before he came out with it, so do you see any progress at all? >> there's still just talking past each other and until you get everybody in a room negotiating this is going to go nowhere. you know the senate is poised to try to take these bills up, the president's plan here in the next couple of days. they will be in session tomorrow here is what has to happen. you have to move to proceed to the bill, actually start debate. well that's subject to a filibuster. how d

i'm david asman. joining me today, liz peake, zachary carabel, jonathan hoenig and gary kaltbaum. lifelong democrat and florida starbucks ceo howard schultz comes out swinging against one of kamala harris's biggest plans. >> i'm running to declare once and for all that health care is a fundamental right and we will deliver that right with medicare for all. >> i am seriously thinking of running for president. i will run as a centrist independent, outside of the two-party system. every american deserves the right to have access to quality health care but what the democrats are proposing is something that is as false as the wall, and that is free health care for all, which the country cannot afford. david: will voters steer closer to the left with kamala harris or more to the center with howard schultz when it comes to things like health care for all? what do you think? >> well, i think howard schultz kind of threw some rain on the democrat parade and frankly, called out republicans as well for not being fiscally prudent. no one is talking about our $20 trillion debt. republicans hav

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel today. striking a deal, that's the news of the day. the president and congressional leaders reaching a temporary plan to end the government shutdown on day 35, prompting trump to make this big announcement at the white house today. roll tape. >> i'm very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown. i will sign a bill to open our government for three weeks until february 15th. i will make sure that all employees receive their back-pay very quickly. if we don't get a fair deal from congress, the government will either shut down on february 15th, again, or i will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the united states to address this emergency. david: the markets holding on to their gains on the news. the dow finishing up more than 180 points, now up for its fifth straight week. that's great news and the senate just passing a bill to reopen the government. let's get the latest on what's next with our senior capitol hill producer. we heard, chad, the president say that if in three

i'm david asman and liz, gary and kevin and jack will join us.te jobs report blown away expectations but when stratospheric after the fed share strongly suggested rate hike would be put on hold for a while. further supporting conio

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel.a meeting today with the president and republican lawmakers this afternoon that's on day 25 of the partial government shutdown. this as a few u.s. companies are now warning about the economic toll of all this. delta airlines saying its revenue is already down 25 mi

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel today. striking a deal, that's the news of the day.ching a temporary plan to end the government shutdown on day 35, prompting trump to make this big announcement at the white house today. roll tape. >> i'm very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown. i will sign a bill to open our government for three weeks until february 15th. i will make sure that all

this is bulls & bears we're glad you to join us i'm david asman joining me we have liz peek, jonathan carry kaltbaum on day 31, according to numbers from the white house we've lost more than a half a percentage point of our gdp for the quarter

david: good evening, i'm david asman. lou has the night off. in the oval office to address the national security crisis along the southern border. the president will make his case fur the border wall, a demand he's continually called for during the shutdown. >> the united states needs a physical barrier, a wall to stop illegal immigration and the deadly inflow of drugs and crime. without a wall you cannot have border security. it will not work. having drones and other forms are all fine but they're not

glad you could join us i'm david asman. joining me on the panel, inside the beltway, .ijing with reps from the u.s. and china, meeting face-to-face for the first time since president trump and president xi agreed to a 90 day freeze on tariffs, that was last month. the president optimistic about china's economic weakness, that that will give us an edge in the discussions. take a en

high, everybody "bulls & bears" and glad you can join us david asman joining me on the panel, gary b smith, kevin kelly and jack. stocks getting a big dynamite job report this morning, blowing away expectations, but then when stratospheric after the fed chair strongly suggested great heights would be hold on for a while. there was confirmation that there will be a meeting between u.s. and china trade reps on monday. the president celebrating these market movers at the white house this afternoon. >> 312,000 jobs was a tremendous number. and obviously, having an impact on the stock market. the economy is very good and remember that from the time of my election, the stock market has gone up very close to 30%. and that is with all of the things that are happening and there are a lot of things happening. we have a massive trade negotiation going on with china, president chee involved and so am i. we are dealing at the highest level so we are doing very well. >> david: there are a lot of if's here but if we get a deal with china and if the fed puts great heights on pause, how high will the

i'm lauren simonetti in for david asman tonight. joining me is the panel today. welcome everybody.t allows billionaires to exist when others struggle in poverty is immoral and wrong. well, here's what bono had to say at a forum in davos today.

i am david asman glad you can join us during today to discuss this and a lot more, christina, liz, gary and jonathan, netflix not bring in the kind of money last quarter that everybody was expecting. let's go straight to deirdre bolton in the newsroom. a lot of discussion about the numbers i have been coming out and revising the numbers. explain. >> yes. there were one print in particular that i would think through the community in the first two minutes but we corrected it and here is what you get. a mixed bag of tricks as far as the fourth quarter. if you look at earnings, netflix did exceed the expectations, viewers can see $0.30 a share, $0.24 per share, that was what was expected. it is higher, better-than-expected. if you look at revenue, this is initially what pressured the stock you can still see it moving lower. after hours you had the company with a revenue of 4.19 billion, slightly lighter than what they were looking for. also, most important, we always talk about for investors, really the picture going forward. revenue for the current quarter, the one we are in, will be a lit

i am david asman glad you can join us during today to discuss this and a lot more, christina, liz, garyast quarter that everybody was expecting. let's go straight to deirdre bolton in the newsroom. a lot of discussion about the numbers i have been coming out and revising the numbers. explain. >> yes. there were one print in particular that i would

hi, everybody this is bulls & bears glad you could join us i'm david asman joining me on the panel today to debate this we got morgan ortega, deirdre bolton and john layfield and adam lashinsky. well new york mayor bill deblasio proposing a massive re distribution of wealth. >> working people have gotten more and more productive at the same time they've gotten smaller and smaller share of the wealth they create. here is the truth. brothers and sisters there's plenty of money in the world. there's plenty of money in this city. it's just in the wrong hands. >> [applause] david: in the wrong hands so is the mayor right, what do you think, gang? >> absolutely not i think the mayor is nuts. they call him big bill for a reason. look, he's running for president is what he's doing and to do that as a democrat you have to make some crazy socialistic statement to get noticed these days. this doesn't work what he's talking about this re distribution. global extreme poverty has gone from 36% in 1990 to about 10% in 2015 because of access to people , because of opportunities that open up. you do that

i'm david asman. joining me is the panel. congressional democrats boycotting a meeting today with the president and republican lawmakers this afternoon that's on day 25 of the partial government shutdown. this as a few u.s. companies are now warning about the economic toll of all this. delta airlines saying its revenue is already down 25 million dollars this month from lack of government travel. while jamie dimon, ceo of america's largest bank, cites one estimate that sees u.s. growth reduced to zero if the shutdown goes on for the entire quarter. so could a real economic slowdown become a reality if this drags on for another month or so? what do you think, gang? >> yes, i think it can, david, unfortunately so. look we're losing about .13% of gdp per week that the government is shut down. this is self-sabotage. this same administration that gave us this tax cut and cut in regulation that boosts the economy now is the same administration that we had to bail out our farmers because trump starts a trade war. now we're bailing ou

i'm david asman. joining me today, liz peake, zachary carabel, jonathan hoenig and gary kaltbaum.tarbucks ceo howard schultz comes out swinging

glad you could join us i'm david asman. joining me on the panel, inside the beltway, . two days of key trade talks have begun in beijing with reps from the u.s. and china, meeting face-to-face for the first time since president trump and president xi agreed to a 90 day freeze on tariffs, that was last month. the president optimistic about china's economic weakness, that that will give us an edge in the discussions. take a listen. >> i spoke to president xi recently. i really believe they want to make a deal. the tariffs have absolutely hurt china very badly. but our country is taking in a lot of money through tariffs, a lot of money, a lot of tariffs, steel dumping tariffs and others. but i think china wants to get it resolved. their economy is not doing well. they are down close to 38%. that's a lot. and i think that gives them a great incentive to negotiate. david: china's top negotiator made a visit to the talks today in which many are saying is a show of goodwill. is the president right to be optimistic about reaching a deal with china? what do you think? >> this is

i'm lauren simonetti in for david asman tonight. joining me is the panel today. welcome everybody. congresswoman aoc making waves earlier this week for saying that a system that allows billionaires to exist when others struggle in poverty is immoral and wrong. well, here's what bono had to say at a forum in davos today. >> capitalism is not immoral. it's amoral. it requires our instruction. capitalism has taken more people out of poverty than any other ism. but it is a wild beast, and if not tamed, it can chew up a lot of people, along the way. >> panel, what do you make of bono's explanation there? >> well, i think saying that capitalism is a wild beast is making the point that human beings are wild beasts unless constrained. you have sensible rules of the road, capitalism works, as he points out. 137,000 people each day are brought out of dire poverty because of what capitalism, free markets, whatever you want to call it is done. in 200 years, per capita income in today's dollars has gone from a little over a thousand dollars in this country to over $50,000. where does she think

hi, everybody this is bulls & bears glad you could join us i'm david asman joining me on the panel today adam lashinsky. well new york mayor bill deblasio proposing a massive re distribution of wealth. >> working people have gotten more and more productive at the same time they've gotten smaller and smaller share of the wealth they create. here is

i'm david asman thanks for joining us today. joining me is the panel today. well, the president apparently walking out of a bipartisan meeting this afternoon with top congressional leaders. let's go straight to edward lawrence at the white house. what happened >> it was a tale of two views of this same meeting. president donald trump did walk out of the meeting that he had called with house and senate leadership. the house minority leader kevin mccarthy says the president asked one simple question on if democrats would negotiate at all. >> politely asked her, okay, nancy, if we open the government up, in 30 days, could we have border security? she raised her hand and said no, not at all. the president calmly said, i guess you're still not wanting to deal with the problem. >> and the president working today to try and get democrats engaged. he actually went to capitol hill for the republican senate luncheon today to make sure that senators remained unified -- republican senators that is. he says they are unified in this. then the president came back for that m

our a-team is back mark law hotter, david asman and mo.te in washington at this moment? >> i am very much opposed to the used but it's also a first amendment right. i'm more concerned about the actual policies and the things that they are actually espousing whether it's hatred toward israel and anti-israel or, you know, or it's just gone so far over the edge. it's taking our country to a dangerous place. >> david? >> do you know who talks about decorum is peggy noonan the "wall street journal" journalist it's not nothing. headline rashida tlaib said nothing wrong. yes she did. she said something wrong that affects the decorum of the nation. i take the subway position new york and back home again. this morning i was taking subway 13, 14-year-old girls throwing the f bomb around like crazy. they are young ladies. and they are throwing the f bomb. the whole sense of decorum and the way we deal with each other is a very important part of what makes america great. and that makes the first amendment possible. you have to have decorum in order to

neil: i would be remiss not acknowledging my friends connell mcshane, david asman, ably, almost too ably filling in per me while i was gone. thanks, guys. a turnaround in oil price. right now we're down 124 points after what was one of the worst years on record going back to 2018. but there are a lot of folks chomping on this data here. trying to seize on signs of a china slowdown, how that could work to our improvement. it is kind of twitted analysis here. we'll get to bottom of it. there is a concern about a trade tiff that could last for a while but then you have got to wonder let's say we score a trade deal, but china is too bad shape to turn things around. we have larry glazer and kingsview asset management cio, scott martin. your sense what is driving the market this first full trading day of the year? >> it still feels like terrible psychology, neil. we saw it overnight. the market responds to this data, this news, today, neil, sell first, ask questions later. i do see the rally we're seeing off the lows we saw overnight which is great but volatility still here. the new year, same

details about bulls and bears host david asman has been punching some of the numbers he's seen. >> first essentially universal income. everybody deserves a basic amount of money from the government. single people making under $50,000 a year would get $250 a month from $3000 a year. families making less than $100,000 would get double that. $500 a month. they call it an income tax credit. you get a check from the government every month. it would add up to $3 trillion in expenses in terms of growing the debt we are to have appeared to $22 trillion debt. 3 trillion more over tenure. , but it is a spending plan. one thing the democrats don't seem to gab is how tax cuts work as incentives to grow the private sector. they're interested in growing the public sector and this is another are spending plan. neil: she's been critical of donald trump that skewed heavily to the rich. she wanted something that heavily skewed, but does she have any tax hikes else anywhere? >> tax hikes are getting rid of the trump tax cuts. even then, the folks who have done the number crunching have found even if you ta

david asman come a host of and bears. >> yeah come i think so in order to and the shot down. he is, but the democrats are under a lot of pressure as well. >> for both sides to do what they want. neil: the president of the united states. >> -- he is setting records for farmers and agriculture. we've had so many good weeks and good days. were doing trade deals and is going to get you so much business you're not ever going to believe it. what do we do? we need more acreage immediately. but i will say we are doing some things with trade that have a tremendous impact. you're going to do business with canada, places where it was very difficult to do business. it was very unfair and a lot of great things are going to happen. i want to really thank everybody here and i want to congratulate a very, very good and exciting football team i watched yesterday. the new orleans saints. i can see this little group over here. the rest of the room is like i do want to talk about that. you have to say drew brees is a quarterback in this was a tremendous game. congratulations to the folks in this

david asman, what you think?i must admit whenever i hear hillary talk about russia, when she was secretary of state with the target reset button saying we are going to reset relations with russia back in 2009. shortly after, russia went into the ukraine. united states didn't do anything. russia was encouraging its buddies in syria to do all kinds of things against rivals and they crossed over the red line. united tape that if they cross over, the last administration, particularly when she was secretary of state didn't do much of anything with regard to russia where is this administration, you judge him by his actions, not by his words. he says a lot of crazy things including about dictators that i don't think are very well said it all. talking about north korea. he's in love with the north korean leader, et cetera. judging by his actions what he's done is far harder than anything the obama administration never did against russia, whether it is attacking assad in syria, sending tomahawks to do that. russia's pipel

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neil: i would be remiss not acknowledging my friends connell mcshane, david asman, ably, almost too ablye. thanks, guys. a turnaround in oil price. right now we're down 124 points after what was one of the worst years on record going back to 2018. but there are a lot of

ed henry, david asman. we are sort of all learning this together.k collins, we have got to ground some flights here. >> i think the very bottom line, first of all, safety for everyone, not the politics of it, but i think that there will be an impact in the politics. it is about time that both sides came to a deal. we should point out that it has been almost a week since the president of the united states came forward and set i want to make another compromise. he already said all wall, a barrier, i will compromise on that. now he comes to the table and says daca three year extension, all of these things that democrats have supported before, just like they have supported a barrier, chuck schumer and others, and it is not that they are even divided. the democrats have not come to the table in this round with the president. i think there's going to be political pressure on both sides to finally come to the table. >> bill: how do you see it, bill? >> i agree with that on the surface. the president says that he won't sign a bill and thus there is funding

leslie marshall fox news contributor and progressive radio host and david asman host of bulls and bears you here this morning. happy new year to everyone. all right. so let's talk about what is expected this afternoon. we know, brad, this is happening in the situation room which adds a sense of urgency. in order to enter the situation room they'll have to surrender cell phones. you don't expect the cameras to be rolling on this meeting. eight are expected to be there. what happens? >> i think what happens is the president lays his cards on the table. we know he has come off the $5 billion. the president will be frank. no deal without border security which includes a fixed barrier. the american people want a secure border. customs and border control say they need it. this is a read my lips moment for this president. george h.w. bush renegeed on his promise when he said no new taxes. this is the same type of situation. a fundamental promise made by the president. >> sandra: i hear you changing the language fixed barrier. this has been the wall. the president's wall. >> semantics. democrat