david axelrod joins us now.nteresting, because so many trump supporters early on, corey lewandowski famously wrote on the board let trump be trump. >> you're a democrat, you want that, because now i think what you see in the country is a real sense of exhaustion. the constant anxiety of waking up to a president's tweets and tantrums and often gratuitous battles and the chaos around him is just exhausting. and that's not just for people who oppose the president, but, you know, i've seen polling. i've seen some focus groups of trump voters who particularly women who are now saying, you know, i like what he does, but i can't stand the way he does it. and i don't know if we can take this. and i really think that the operative question that americans need to be has the broadest reach is can we do this for another four years. >> the -- i have heard you say that the group -- if you were in the trump train, if you were in the trump war room, the group you would be looking at and most concerned about is white noncollege

them along to a larger question on donald trump's behavior and abuse of power. >> let me bring in david axelrod as well. first of all, do you agree with david chalian's analysis? >> yes, i do. i think most likely when republicans say that democrats just want to relitigate the last election, they'll respond as the representative did and say they're trying to protect the next one because the president is actively trying to subvert that election, and that was what that interchange with the president of ukraine was all about. i want to offer two reality checks. i was inspired by jeffrey's quaint pan to facts, very 20th century, but the fact of the matter is we have seen months and months and months of hearings, and we know what the white house strategy has been. it has been to deflect, to deny, and ultimately to delay by sending everything into the courts. so the democrats, we heard earlier manu said they hoped to finish this by the end of the year. i think the hopes of the administration are to push everything into the future and fight every bit of it. this notion that people are now suddenly beca

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david axelrod was a top adviser in the obama administration tweeting it is one thing for harmless gaffes and another if you serially distort your own record. joe biden is in danger of creating a more damaging meme. axelrod was referring to an article which in an interview on npr said he was against the war in iraq from day one even though he voted to authorize military force in iraq. >> i came out against war at that moment. >> reporter: it is not true. biden is on the record supporting the invasion of iraq right after the war began in 2003 but later changed his mind and said his vote was a mistake. another mistake last week the washington post accused him of getting almost everything wrong in a story he likes to tell on the trail and don't forget about these. >> i love this place, what's not to like? kids are just as bright as white kids. we choose science of perfection, we choose truth over facts. >> reporter: some democrats say the media is blowing this out of proportion. >> we can talk about this all day long but voters simply don't care. >> voters can forgive donald trump being corr

i want to bring in david axelrod. that's so bizarre about this latest controversy scandal is that so much of it is playing out right in front of our eyes. in may, rudy giuliani goes to ukraine and says he wants the investigation of the bidens because it could help his client. in june the president tells george stephanopolous that he would take information, dirt, on an opponent from a foreign country. and now all this stuff having to do with the phone call that the president is just admitting. >> yeah. no, he's becoming increasingly brazen. this was either implicit or explicit extortion in plain sight. we know what happened because he's told us what happened, and here's the thing. donald trump -- this has been true throughout his life, throughout his business career, and it's true with him as president of the united states. he does not believe in rules and laws and norms and institutions, and he doesn't believe they apply to him. the words that never pass from his lips are "we could do that but it would be wrong." the

. >> dana: david axelrod the former political adviser to president obama and the white house treatedt's -- tweeted this, it's good to have a rep for harmless gaffs, it's one thing if you serially distort your own record. joe biden is in danger of create more damaging meme. >> he has an article charging it's not just small gaffs but senility and that's what the article said he was retweeting, david axelrod. that what you played has been refuted definitively by what he said on the floor of the senate and what he said to reporters months after that moment of meeting with president bush. i wasn't in that room and neither were you and there were not a lot of people making their stand at that moment. >> dana: what's interesting about it too is if you think back to the '04 campaign and george w. bush wants to be re-elect and john kerry's out there and at a town hall and said i was for the war before i was against it and that became the definition. i think it's possible next week when you see the democrats debate they won't complain about him being too old or his gaffs i think they'll go aft

more, not only did a spokesman for the bush family tell the examiner it was a flat-out lie and david axelrodcalling joe out accusing him of serially distorting his record. biden is under fire because he reportedly declared thursday that he's committed to not raising money from fossil fuel executives. at a fundraiser hosted by fossil fuel company founder. we told enthusiasm would happen. biden wouldn't be able to keep his stories straight and escape his parent. he would be spinning in a million different directions. even joe isn't far left enough for the new extreme democratic party. he fully supports the new green deal. that party is now filled with radicals, socialists, bernie sanders, comrade de blasso, and rudy guiliani slamming for the city he saved. former mayor rudy guiliani joins us now. i know were you on "fox & friends" mr. mayor, and krod much heros. first responders. >> it was very emotional, sean. very emotional to see all of those men there. and a number of them i recognized from being there trying to dig up the bodies of their brothers and their fringdz. and their friends. it's

. >> joining us now, david axelrod. good to see you.h has already been said about that moment between castro and biden on the debate stage. and i'm sure there have been voters who have asked themselves how old is too old to run for president. but seeing all the backlash, do you think it settled it that if you are going to take down biden, this is not the way to do it? >> i don't think that it clears biden of the burden of approaching that he is up to the job be. he would be eight years older than anyone who ever took office as president. so there are questions that he has to resolve and he has to resolve it by vigorously contesting for the nomination and going through this whole process. i think that what we saw though is that gesture that castro engaged this is not going to be well received. people will make their own conclusions as to whether biden is too old or doesn't have the stamina to come the job. but they didn't particularly like -- particularly since he was wrong about the reference that he was making, they didn't like castro

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. >>> joining us now, cnn senior political commentator david axelrod and cnn national security commentator mike rogers. you heard matthew lay it out there. the basic question this morning is this -- did the president pressure a foreign leader? did the president hold money over a foreign government for the purposes of political gain? for going after a domestic political opponent? mike rogers, you've been in this business a long time. what concerns does that raise? >> well, a bunch. again, we don't know that, but certainly the facts are dripping out. and i think the administration -- i hope the president comes out at noon and clarifies this thing because it's only going to drip out, and it will get out, and we will have a full story. it's just a matter on what terms we get that story. but i think this is, if that fact pattern is exactly right, i mean, it's very, very significant. if, in fact, he held back aid for the purposes of getting some political advantage, that is, about as serious a charge as you're going to get. >> david axelrod, what do you see here? >> well, i absolutely agree. we

david axelrod, jen psaki, i appreciate it. >>> more breaking news on a very busy wednesday night. the supreme court has cleared the way for new trump administration restrictions to take effect that would drastically limit the number of central american migrants able to claim asylum in the u.s. the rule would prohibit migrants who travel through mexico or another country without seeking protection there to claim asylum on u.s. soil. it had been challenged in the lower courts but the administration succeeded in persuading the supreme court to allow the rules to go into effect while the appeals process is ongoog. >>> still to come, another new poll, this time looking at how vulnerable president trump may be to a number of the democratic candidates currently running. >>> and later my conversation with former ambassador to the u.n., samantha power. we'll talk to her about john bolton's exit and what it shows about this white house and her new book revealing details of her time in the obama administration. with advil liqui-gels, what stiff joints? what bad back? advil is... relief that'

we are staying busy key democrats saying that it goes beyond gaffes, david axelrod's, top advisor inhe obama administration, tweeted this. "it's one thing to have a well-earned rep for goofy, harmless gaffes. it's another if you seriously distort your own record. he joe biden is in danger of damaging this." shredded bite in 's claim in an interview on npr that he was against the war in iraq, even though he voted to mobilize military force in iraq. >> immediately when it started, came out against the war at that moment. >> the problem is, it's just not true. biden is on the record supporting the invasion of iraq, though he later changed his mind and said his vote was a mistake. another mistake, remember just last week, "the washington post" accused biden of getting a most everything wrong, and a war story he likes to tell on the trail. i don't forget about these. >> i love this place. look, what's not to like? >> poor kids are just as talented and just as bright as white kids. we choose a science over traction. we choose truth over facts. >> now some democrats say that the media is ju

gloria bourjer and david axelrod, host of the "axe files" and former adviser to president obama.e is a lot we don't know and people in congress don't know. what do you -- what do you want to know that you're not going to know by the end of tomorrow if this transcript -- or that we may know if the trpt is released and the whistleblower is allowed to say something. >> these stories tend to get more complicated, not less complicated the more you dig into them. for example some of the things we need to know. how many contacts were there between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine? was it just this one phone call. >> because the "wall street journal" reported eight times that the president had sort of beirut it back to biden or pressured the ukrainian president. we don't know if it's in one phone call or at least not clear to me one phone call or multiple contacts. >> good question. what was the chronology involving this aid package? and why was it delayed? and why was it finally granted? what was the connection if any between the aid package and the discus

i'm going to bring in former senior adviser david axelrod and former communications director and cnn political commentator jen psaki. david, i want to talk about the poll numbers in a second, but i first want to ask you about the news -- the possibility of secretary of state mike pompeo taking on a role as national security adviser as well. is that a good idea, having your secretary of state also be your national security adviser? >> no. jen can speak more intimately to this because she worked at the state department. but you want a national security adviser who is coordinating the processes among all the agencies that deal with these issues on behalf of the president and essentially exercising some oversight on those cabinet agencies. that would not be the case if the secretary of state were also the national security adviser. and what's peculiar about this is i mean you now have a chief of staff in the white house who is also the omb director. you'd hav a secretary of state who is the -- and the circles around the president are i would think it would be a very concerning thing. >> j

joining me for more on what last night means for today, david axelrod, host of cnn's the axe files and national politics reporter for "wall street journal." great to see you guys. david, you did not think that was a good moment for julian castro, when you heard his explanation on "new day," did that change your view how it landed? >> no. it was fairly obvious what he was trying to do. i think he took a big risk making that attack and i think it back fired on him. if he had just stopped at making the note -- stopped making the point i support a plan that covers everyone, yours does not, that's not in the spirit of where president obama was driving. he seemed gratuitous in that attack. remember, joe biden is a well liked person in the democratic party. whether people are for him or not for president, he's held in high esteem. a lot of affection. i don't think that was a good moment for castro. >> sabrina, cory booker had a moment as well after the debate that seemed that he was doing very much the same, questioning whether joe biden had the stamina to sustain a long primary and general e

for all these things that have underperform for a long time for the last three weeks we saw the david axelrod outperform the s&p. this isn't a one day phenomenon. today was a bit of an exclamation point. >> greet to sat to see you agai. is it the banks or these sectors that were dead cats bouncing >> i don't know if i would go as far as the dead cat. what i mean by that it's very enticing when you look at the move at the banks and put it in the overall context. rates bottomed a weekago and moved higher citi surprise index bounceed into positive territory a week ago. value ingeneral has moved up there's an inclination, this is the move in the value, cyclic alls we've been waiting for. you need confirmation on that. you need to wait and see what the fed does in a week the ecb similarly has to provide some delivery. this meeting is not as important as the one that comes in november when christine lagarde takes over you need the data to come in strongly if we're talking about the global inflation trade, that's incredible bullish so, i'm enticed by it but not willing to jump all in on it just yet

a guy now who knows a thing or two about getting candidates elected, cnn political commentator david axelrod and on the obama election campaign and managed many campaigns. you know a little about this. good to see you. >> laughing when you said a slimmed down field of ten candidates. >> slim at ten. >> we had what we considered a large field and there were seven candidates on the debate stage. >> yeah. now slim at ten. what are you looking for? >> i think jessica said it well. the warren/biden dynamic is interesting. she is the ascending candidate and that's particularly true in iowa, where this process begins. so there is this tension there, and they haven't been on the stage together before. she has attacked him from a distance on his role, for example, in sponsoring bankruptcy legislations in the 2000s she fought vigorous against as anti-consumer. interesting to see if she's raise that on this stage. we heard what he might say in response to some of her ideas. so that's one subtext. one thing we should mention, by the way, in terms of the link to president obama, if you look into the cnn

david axelrod expressing concern and caution and this is what the trump campaign had to say. the campaign manager, impeachment strategies meant to appease the rabbit extreme left base but will only serve to embolden and energize donald trump's supporters and create a landslide victory to the president. are they risking back lash? >> that is spin from brad. ones the areas it is a political decision. the other theory is impeachment is something our founding fathers put in the constitution, congress had a duty to pursue it if the president exceeded his authority and committed treason, bribery your high crimes and misdemeanors. that is the standard our founding fathers came up with. i'm not saying donald trump has violated that standard but if he has congress in my view has an obligation to proceed, they viewed that way before the ukraine controversy came forward. the ukraine controversy is the straw that broke the camels back and caused pelosi to go forward with this impeachment inquiry. it doesn't mean the house is going to impeach but definitely possible. as you point out earl

it and and a min different directions and try to keep it together on the campaign trail and as david axelrod you can hide him. he cuts it or he doesn't. unfortunate for biden, his biggest opponent is himself. take a look. >> i love this place. what's not to like about vermont in terms of the beauty of it? if you agree with me, go to joe 30330 help me in this fight. watch what happened when the kids from parkland marched up. i met with them and they went on the hill when i was best president, they went to the hill to go to see them. we choose unity over division. we choose sides over the fiction. we choose truth over facts. words that stung the nation and i would argue i know shocked the world. international leaders spoke about it. you had people like margaret thatcher -- excuse me. people like the former chairman and leader of the party in germany. you had angela merkel. >> we had this notion that somehow if you're poor you cannt do it. poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. wealthy kids. black kids. asian kids. the largest growth in population is indian americans,

happens also to be co-host of the podcast "hacks on tap with david axelrod." they also make a terrific follow on social media. and we come to you -- we welcome to the broadcast tonight national politics reporter for the "wall street journal." tarini, i'd like to begin with you and your list of five things to look for tomorrow night which because we love lists in the television news business instantly caught our eye. they are will warren and bide attack each other, especially over health care? how will biden's series of gaffes affect him? will democrats lay off the obama administration? is punching up a good strategy or lower polling candidates? will proposals about gun buybacks divide the field? start with number 1. what is likely, what is possible to happen between biden and warren? >> any direct engagement between those two candidates. these are two candidates we have not seen on the debate stage together. this is something that voters have been waiting to see. so any direct engagement between the two will be one to watch but especially on health care. we kn

joining us now to talk about all of this, we have david axelrod, cnn senior political commentator, andn senior global affairs analyst. david, so much has happened in the past 48 hours, as we keep saying. but the bottom line is that with our own eyes, we can see, from that transcript of the phone call that the president asked for a favor from the ukrainian president to dig up dirt on a political opponent, and in the legal code, that's illegal. >> yeah, it sort of makes that hoax thing a little awkward. you know, the president has suggested that the whistle-blower account was -- should be discounted, because it was all based o

the university of southern california, and importantly, co-host of the podcast "hax on tap" with david axelrod a great follow on twitter. welcome back. >> thank you, brian. >> i have in my hand a list of people according to our nbc news poll, polling at 1% or below and i hate to lead with a negative but i'm going to. o'rourke, gabbard, delaney, steyer, bennett, de blasio, castro, bullock, ryan, williamson. basically a baseball team. explain this to me. i'm told money is the mother's milk of politics. jet fuel. bumper stickers. what are they all still doing in the race? >> it's a pretty depressing day when you're losing to the margin of error and you can't even prove you exist statistically. hope springs eternal in politics. hope springs eternal in politics. they have seen other races where something happens and you turn over the national polling. for these candidates who don't have resources and a base, they can both probably beat trump in a general election. what's going to happen now is they are running out of money. the middle tier is running out of money. this is the time in iowa where you

>> so i think it's -- t remember david axelrod said after the second debate for joe biden basically thebiden this is the best he can do. the bad news is for joe biden this is the best he can do. i think it's sort of the same. he has not had any stellar standout performances in anyny of these debates. >> brian: right. >> he has kind of glided by. here's the thing he can. p because he is tied to the obama legacy. i think you cannot under estimate how important that obama legacy is for him. that is essentially what is propping up his candidacy and what protects him from all these gaffes and mistakes he has made. >> brian: he can't have it both ways and say i was just the vice president and when they like something that president obama did and well i was with him every step of the way. and 100 percent right. >> that's what vice president biden is doing, right? he runs an ad in iowa, basically touting, being tied to the obama administration vice president. he ran a pre-debate ad yesterday also doing that with him and obama hugging. and so but then he divorces himself on the deportations thin

he mentioned all of the democratic talking points in that clip with david axelrod and of course the top chief strategist in his election and he was saying we have to beat trump, we have to be strategic. the big question which we saw in the debate last week was how -- who is best to do that. who has the policies, the leftward shift policies, the more centrist biden policies. i think we're figuring that out as we head into 2020. >> eric holder had more to say about biden defending the former vice president saying nothing concerning about his record on race came up when he was being vetted for vp. let's listen to that. >> i don't think that there's any basis for people to believe that a president biden would be less committed to civil rights enforcement than president obama was. i'm not endorsing him. it's for him to explain and to, as i've just said say i might have been wrong then, but this is where i am now. you know, you judge me on the entirety of my career. >> jonathan, you were asked -- what does biden need to do and say to put concerns about his stands on race or do you think he ca

joining us now to talk about all of this, we have david axelrod, cnn senior political commentator, and bianna golodryga, cnn senior global affairs analyst. david, so much has happened in the past 48 hours, as we keep saying. but the bottom line is that with our own eyes, we can see, from that transcript of the phone call that the president asked for a favor from the ukrainian president to dig up dirt on a political opponent, and in the legal code, that's illegal. >> yeah, it sort of makes that hoax thing a little awkward. you know, the president has suggested that the whistle-blower account was -- should be discounted, because it was all based on hearsay, but the hearsay an validated by the summary of his call. that it was exactly what the whistle-blower said it was. it was the core of the whistle-blower's concern and so the president has a huge problem here. i think he's behaving like a guy who has a huge problem. but, this is a very serious matter with the evidence front and center and before us and offered up by the white house itself. >> yeah, the evidence is out there. the very fi

co-director of the political future for the southern california and co-host of hax on tap with david axelrod and a great follow on twitter. welcome back. >> thank you, brian. >> i have in my hand a list of people according to our nbc news poll, polling at 1% or below and i hate to lead with a negative but i'm going to. o'rourke, gabbard, delaney, steyer, de blasio, castro, bullock, ryan, williamson. a baseball team. explain this to me. jet fuel, bumper stickers what are they all still doing in the race? >> it's a pretty depressing day when you're losing to the margin of error to prove you exist. but hope springs eternal in politics. we've seen other races where in the last 30 days of iowa, something happens. bullock and bennett could beat trump in an election. they're running out of money, the middle trooier is running o of money. if you don't have poll numbers, you're not getting donations. you're getting in the squeeze which can cut off your oxygen financially. >> bigger names, cory booker at 2% or 3%. >> the national polls are a bit of a hustle. if the iowa caucus pops for somebody, maybe

david axelrod had a piece today that said don't lead to trump get away with this kind of stuff, thishis negative energy -- >> greg: it's too late. trump has introduced a new kind of campaigning. he is introduced the concept of the harlem globetrotters into politics. watch me come to town and last of the generals. that is is what it is going to. wherever the democrats show up he will have a little war room and say, what can we do to mess with them? you can't go back after this. even if he loses, people are going to be doing this way differently. >> juan: people get tired of this. it's just getting started. we've seen this act, for now. we saw it in 2016 and he doesn't stop. >> jesse: when you are on the beach and you hear that noise and you look up and see the plane with the banter about $1 coronas. nobody looks away. >> katie: coming up, a special treat for you. a live edition of "animals are great." a kangaroo, and sloth up next on "the five" ." plus melting down on the media over guns. we will play the video for you up next. ♪ the amount of student loan debt i have i'm embarrassed

. >> yesterday on the show david axelrod talked about the difficult position nancy pelosi was in.ed the proverbial rubicon and there is a concern an impeachment could help president trump with swing voters, with independent voters, and guarantee his re-election in places like michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania. >> this is why speaker pelosi has been slow to move to this point because she did not want to motivate the republican base and to turn off independent voters. we do know the republican base is already motivated. the republican base already thinks the president has been under attack by the democratic party, and they are going to come to next year's election with that in mind. what they did not want was a situation the democrats were giving them extra motivation or turning off those independent or swing voters in between. what we have seen in the last 48 hours democrats believe this is an argument they think they can win on the merits, and so they are going to use this new ukraine inquiry to say, no, this is not about robert mueller. this is not about the special counsel

joining us, bianna golodryga, david axelrod, host of "the ax files" and mitch landrieu, a cnn political commentator. ax, dan balls, the dean of political reporters in america, writes this morning that joe biden had the kind of debate that supporters have been waiting for. >> yeah, i think that's half true. i think for the first hour, he was very, very strong. and he was, you know, he was more engaged than he had been. the first debate was a disaster. second was better. this was even better than that. he did flag at the end of the debate. what i would say about presidential politics is it never gets easier. it only gets harder as you move along. so the performance last night was more than adequate for what he needed to do. he's going to have to do better as time goes on and the field shrinks and he comes under even greater scrutiny. >> what did you see last night? >> i agreed with you on joe biden. what's interesting is the man who sits so well still among african-american voters seems to still not have a particularly well defined answer when it comes to race relations questions. you tal

. >> i want to get david axelrod's thoughts on all of this. and david, you worked in the white house. this five-page document that the white house released today, it is not called a transcript. it is called a memorandum of telephone conversation. and then there is a note on page one, caution, a memorandum of a telephone conversation is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. basically said these are the notes and recollections of senior staff members on the ncs and the situation room over at the white house. but react to that and then give us your thoughts. >> well my thought, first of all, it is not customary to release transcripts of conversations with foreign leader with the president. but what is stunning about this was that this summary itself was damning. forget about transcripts. this is what they released as their account of what happened and what happened is what has been described. but i also want to pick up on what dana said because the president is using his very, very large bull horn and hissance i hissance ill ---ance illary fo

this is david axelrod, famous political adviser to president obama talking about the issue of impeachments and democrats now. watch. >> i think there's great risks here. nobody knows how this is going to play out. you could end up in fact invigorating the president's chances. you could end up losing many democrats in the house if people react poorly to this. you could end up with a president re-elected and unbridled in his power. that's i'm sure what nancy pelosi has been mulling over for months and months and months. >> dana: that changed yesterday. now listen to karl rove, the adviser to president george w. bush. >> the democrats have put themselves in a place. think about this. this is going to hurt joe biden badly. because we're going to be talking and ukraine and the idea of hunter biden being hired by a moscow leaning oligarch to demonstrate that he had juice with the united states. >> dana: alex? >> i agree with david and karl in those clips. so far this is bad for democrats. they have clearly gotten ahead of the facts here. they don't know the facts and rushing to impeachment. it's

joining us, bianna golodryga, david axelrod, host of "the ax

david axelrod wrote about that in "the times" yesterday, but i do agree with ayesha on this point which is, there is a general argument to be made. it's 2019, there are so many democrats looking at this field going, really, this is it? and the second piece is, okay, so we've got a guy who's so old, who is the established front-runner. is that really moving forward. >> and aren't democrats being a little fickle if they don't like these 20? >> did you see "the new york times" comparison and what trump said -- >> we've got a lot of options and i don't think the age thing is necessarily going to be -- >> the top three front-runners -- >> everybody is 70 and over. so our voters are already speaking that that isn't going to be necessarily their issue. if you want to go at biden on whether or not this is memory or age or whether he has stamina, than go straight through the front door and don't back away from it. >> by the way, what is an end line on the football field? where is the end line? >> i'll explain it to you. >> oh, good. >> during the break. i want to know what an end line is. >> we

here is president obama's campaign manager and democratic strategist david axelrod. >> you could end up in fact invigorating the president's chances. you could end up losing many democrats in the house if people react poorly to this and you can end up with the president reelected an unbridled. >> martha: back in 1998 during the clinton impeachment, representative pelosi warned republicans that they were letting their emotions guide america into a dark place. watch this. >> today the republican majority is not judging the president with fairness, but impeaching him with a vengeance. we are here today because the republicans in the house are paralyzed with hatred of president clinton and until the republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer. >> martha: judiciary committee chairman, senator lindsey graham was there then and he joins us here now. tonight. when you look back at that, senator, it sounds quite familiar in the reverse. it what you make of nancy pelosi's move here? >> what i would ask her to do is allow the house to vote on whether or not there should

republican strategist and political future for the southern california and co-host of hax on tap with david axelrodome back. >> thank you, brian. >> i have in my hand a list of people according to our nbc news poll, polling at 1% or below and i hate to lead with a negative but i'm going to. oc o'rourke, gabbard, delaney, steyer, told that money -- jet , bumper stickers. what are they all doing in the race? >> it's a pretty impressive day when you are losing to the margin of error. hope springs eternal in politics. they have seen other races where something happens and you turn over the national polling. for these candidates who don't have resources and a base, they can both probably beat trump in a general election. what's going to happen now is they are running out of money. the middle tier is running out of money. this is the time in iowa where you have to ramp up the spending. if you don't have poll numbers, you're not getting donations. you're getting the squeeze which can cut off your oxygen financially. >> bigger names. cory booker, i think we have him at two percent or three percent. >> the

i was struck by something david axelrod told "the new york times" today. he said that he felt that no one made the broadest, most appealing case for change on that stage. do you agree? >> well, in my biased opinion i, of course, think i did. look, what we need is ideas that are bold enough to actually meet the challenge of the moment we're in and also capable of unifying the country. it's why, for example, i described how medicare for all who want it can work in a way that creates that public alternative, gets everybody covered, but unlike the medicare for all vision that senator sanders and warren have, it doesn't dictate that to the american people and risk further polarizing them which is difficult as a governing strategy not just politically speaking. look, we need to unify this country. it's not going to be about papering over our differences or watering down our values. it's forming solutions that engage the american majority. sometimes from following politics today you would forget that there is an american majority that believes that we need univer

. >> i think david axelrod captured in a tweet, he threw the long pass and overthrew it by a long shot. it seemed it was a calculated risk, it didn't work. i think it's going to hurt him. i think it's important that candidates like castro and others, they can differently eight selves from obama, they can do that in a way without having to hurl themselves or undermine obama's legacy. but they can say i think elizabeth warren gave an indication of how to do it. obama set the stage, we can build on what he has done. and i think if we can go that route we'll be in a better position. but i don't think you go the route that castro tried. >> steve, this is the second democratic debate in a row where joe biden seemed to survive on the excesses of his opponents. he was at times shaky last night, but in the second debate he survived and actually probably ended up gaining politically because everybody decided they weren't going attack barack obama in the second debate. the third debate was a love fest. they overcorrected. everybody was talking about how much they love barack obama. that was aweso

one more from former obama political adviser david axelrod, hooley and castro is on the -- julian castros on the attack and accuses biden of betraying the spirit of barack obama on health care, castro is throwing long with great risk. goat -- let's go to the democrat line. they are not discussing anything that will concern me. i have a bladder prolapse and everywhere i am going they are telling i have to go to a private doctor and i don't have the money. i worked in oceanside, new york for 30 years and i think i earned it in the united states. host: they talked about health care. caller: that is what i was listening about because i really need it and i am in pain every day because i walk around with of -- with my bladder having collapsed on me. what what could've debt could a candidate -- what could a candidate have said that would have appealed to you? caller: that everyone who worked hard in the united states is entitled to get private doctors to do the operations. host: timothee from new york is next on the independent line from harper's bill. hello. hi. i think they are all phonies.

david axelrod was tweeting out saying how biden is becoming this gaffe and if he doesn't pull off something in new hampshire and iowa it's tough to tell voters in south carolina that he's worth voting for. >> i think the only reason why he might have more of a chance in new hampshire is because the progressive vote is split between biden and warren. if it was just one or the other in the race, he wouldn't have a shot. neil: we'll be monitoring that very very closely because they are all there not missing a chance to sort of get their two bits in. in the meantime we are still focusing on the remnants of dorian and that might be dismissing it right now, premature again they are still looking for survivors even the death toll is at 43 fears it could go into the hundreds or thousands. let's go to rick richmuth on what the storm is doing right now. rick: so well this is what the storm did at least in the mainland u.s. , strongest wind we've seen was in cape lookout, north carolina, before it made landfall and we definitely have strong winds that are this morning across cape cod and the islands i