also joining us is david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama. secretary panetta, let me begin with you, because this was quite a moment on a number of levels, one of which you have a u.s. president berating a u.s. ally currently defending his country against an ongoing russian invasion. and the president having far harsher words for him, and frankly, no harsh words for for vladimir putin. what what does that mean for america's relationship, not just with ukraine, but with the world? >> well, i think you saw a tragic and historic moment take place in the oval office, uh, in which 80 years of united states foreign policy has largely been turned on its head. i mean, for 80 years since world war ii, uh, presidents, democrat and republican, democrat and republican have been consistent on u.s. foreign policy, on world leadership, on support for our alliances, on support for democratic values, and standing up to tyrants. and today, you saw that conversation where the president and the vice president spent most of their time defending putin and attackin