stuart: come on in, david bahnsen. biden will be at the top of the ticket on november the 5th? >> i do not. the only question at this point is what mechanism by which he gets off, whether it's easy or hard. i would have guessed he wasn't going to get through this last week, and he did. i simply do not believe he can make it all the way until november, and unfortunately for the democrats, i think he's make it much harder. it would probably be easier to rip the band-aid and start whatever plan b is going to be. so -- stuart: i just don't know the mechanism for -- >> oh, it's him agreeing to step down. lauren: -- for the second debate, and he told the donors as a such. they're sitting there probably, oh, my god, how is he going to impress us? >> well, the second debate is months away. if i were him, i'd focus on other things because he may not be remembering his preparation for the -- stuart: that was cruel. >> i don't mean it that way. that's three months in advance. stuart: let's change the subject. look at futures, ple