when we -- when david bany. and danwise went around here peter dinklidge was the only name considered for terian. >> time magazine wleet distinguishes martin and marks him as a major -- what makes him as a major force for he of lucien in fantasy is his refusal to embration the vision was world as a struggle between good and evil. do you agree? >> i think the struggle between good and evil is central to fantasy and indeed in some ways central to most fiction. it's certainly a worthy subject for fiction. where i think i differ is i regard the struggle between good and evil as being waged within the individual human heart. it's not waged as favent see would have it like the dark lord gathers the evil people together and puts them in black clothing and you know they are evil because they are really ugly and all of the good people are handsome and they wear white and meet on a big battlefield. in the real world, they are not that complex. very few people get up in the morning and say, oh, i am evil. what evil can i d