among the co-hosts is david barton. people may remember him as glenn beck's historian at glenn beck university. he has christian education degree from oral roberts university. he pushes this notion along with others that this is a country that should be governed, basically as christian nation. it should be governed, not by secular law, but by his interpretation after book of law. it says a lot about rick perry that he is keeping this commitment. >> let's go here a second and i want to bring in our guest into the conversation. but rick perry would have to know or his staff would have to know this person is there, because he is a cohost. this is part of the committee. not like he is just happens to be there and rick perry is there. >> right. he also was at rick perry's big 30,000 prayer meeting. he is associated with barton before. he does obviously know him and has associated with him in the past. now a lot of folks other than even myself and others have raised questions about barton, anti-defamation league raising this