and in los angeles, david begnaud, the radio host of news breaker with david begnaud. off, guys, i'll start with you, jenny, is it proper or do you think this is offensive to the victims and their families? >> right, so i don't find it offensive as long as it is not really a for profit endeavor. if this is just to cover operational costs it okay with me and the fact that the direct 9/11 families are exempt from having to pay this fee also is a better thing to be than if they had to pay. >> what do you think, david? >> look, if it takes two bucks to reserve a spot, for me, if i'm traveling from across the country to visit this memorial spot, i don't have a problem paying it. everything is an operational cost. millions were put up, up front, to make this possible. and i think it is an amazing place. i'll pay two bucks. want four bucks, i'll pay it. i personally don't have a problem. >> we should point out, if you do get your pass day of in person, there is no $2 fee. this is just for in advance passes. so let's move on to our next topic, this is a story that involves bot