mark: david berlinski. i want to talk today with you in your uniquely qualified to do this, about evolution, science and progressivism because there's a link. you've written about this and spoken about this many, many times. you received your ph.d. in philosophy from princeton university. later a post doctoral fellow in mathematics and molecular biology at columbia university. glad i didn't take any of those courses. you taught philosophy, mathematics, english at stanford, rutgers, university of new york and in paris and the editor of inference international review of science. let's get started. you wrote a book about a decade ago they read about a decade ago. and in doing this program, i started to think about it, and i said, i think it's important that we have this discussion about science, evolution, progressivism, and i want to start where you started. let me read you one paragraph. "i'm a secular jew, you write. my religious education did not take. i can barely remember a word of hebrew, i cannot pray.