i know professor long will be joining us for our second panel in place of david bernen who had been injured. >> he had surgery today. >> surgery today. >> a good excuse. >> in the hall of fame of excuses that's pretty high. so we will roll directly into the first panel. we'll t we'll do a set-up and we'll be you in a couple of minutes. >>> american university law schools conference on the freedom of information act continues now. they assist other government agencies in complying with foia. also on the panel is state department officer in charge of handling freedom of information act requests. this is just over an hour. >> all right, folks, we'll start in again on the first panel. if everyone could quiet down. i know there are a lot of conversations going on upstairs where the handouts are and the -- and the refreshments. we call that the foia foyer. foia foyer. we call it that all year long. by the way, it does look like the sun is beginning to peek out a little bit, befitting this freedom of information day during sunshine week. i want to make sure that everyone here in the audience knows