thought about these things more thoroughly than i, people at the libertarian cato institute like david boaz, the author of the libertarian mind. also here to tell us how hollywood gets politics wrong is video producer john pepola, john used to work for mtv. why does hollywood want to make politicians heroes? >> there's a belief that politics is a mechanism for everyone to be represented, whereas private industry and individuals only represent their own interests. and that's an appealing appeal if you are trying to tell a story and get a broad audience that the hero represents all of us if we vote for them, but -- >> it's sort of logical, the businessman is out for himself, the politician is there to help all of us. >> if i don't like what the businessman is doing, i can walk out the door. if i don't like what the politician is doing, i guess i go to greece? i don't know. [ laughter ] >> david? >> there's a lot of nationalism and tribalism. they're our leaders, they represent our country, and that's a big thing. plus politicians do dramatic important things, they win elections, they fight wa