and man and woman can do that no other couple, no other group can really do that >> david bossie, is what senator portman did a good thing or a bad thing? >> well, look, i think it's obviously what he thinks is the right thing for his family. i don't think it is the right thing for america and i don't think it is the right thing for senator portman, from public policy standpoint. look, senator portman had only a few choices. he could cast his son out which obviously is a harsh, harsh thing to do, to say i love you unconditionally, and i change my views, forget my principles or say i love you unconditionally but i don't agree with you philosophically and therefore, i'm not going to change my principles. and senator portman sided with changing his principles. look, i'm father, i understand, i am father of four, i understand. when you're a parent, off different view of the world. but i can tell you what senator santorum talked about, the importance of a mother and father raising their children -- raising their children, raising the best possible family, is really what america has been a