bush along with david boyes. thank you so much for joining us tonight and congratulations on your win today. >> thank you so much. >> a programming note. one of the couples represented by ted olson are on the last word with lawrence o'donnell tonight, which is very cool. you have to watch that, okay? deal, deal. joining us now is dahlia litwick. dahlia, thanks for being with us. >> hi, there. >> listen to ted olson, do you agree with his take on whether or not this case goes to the supreme court and how it will do there? >> well, i agree with just about everything he said. i do think it's really important to look back at judge von walker's 2010 decision and look at how thermonuclear that decision really was. what he did in that opinion, finding a fundamental right to gay marriage, finding an equal protection violation was whittled down by the court today. ironically it looks a little like bush v. gore to me. a little bit like they're saying? states where supreme courts give one the right to marry and then by refe

bush along with david boyes. thank you so much for joining us tonight and congratulations on your win today. appreciate you being here. >> thank you so much, rachel. >> a programming note. one of the couples represented by ted olson are on the last word with lawrence o'donnell tonight, which is very cool. you have to watch that, okay? deal, deal. joining us now is dahlia litwick. senior editor and correspondent for dahlia. thank you for being with us. >> listen to ted olson, do you agree with his take on whether or not this case goes to the supreme court and how it will do there? >> well, i agree with just about everything he said. i do think it's really important to look back at judge von walker's 2010 decision and look at how thermonuclear that decision really was. what he did in that opinion, finding a fundamental right to gay marriage, finding an equal protection violation was whittled down by the court today. ironically, i think you have to read a little bit about judge reinhart, the two judges in the ninth

we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put togetrnd tedlslsen. >> let's tete t te presio ntpsint amam u wu wayay kearneyey today saiai he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of moderates support gay major -- marriage. so if you had to give president obama advice in the middle of an election should the president reverse his decision? >> i think he should do what he thinks -- well, i think he should do the right thing. as dr. king reminded us, it's always the right time to do the right thing and stand up on principlement you can't run the 90-yard dark as i said on equality, marriage is marriage f. we believe in full equality for some americans regardless of gender and ethnicity we need to believe that. >> what would you suggest? >> to do what's in the best interest of his reelection, because no president in history has done more to advance the rights of the gay community than

former solicitor-general and a very well-known conservative litigator, wonderful lois, as well as david boyes teaming up together is a powerful message. love is not partisan. there's no party that knows love better than the other. there's a lot of debates, this is a political show. maybe some people will say that some parties know how to love more than others. i want to say love knows no boundaries, and that's why this is such a powerful thing. it's not just california, though. the ninth circuit deals with washington. we have an important decision going up there, still washington state. i hope it goes to the supreme court. why? because we learned through this process of standing up and fighting for our rights, especially when you consider don't ask don't tell being repealed, there are soldiers serving overseas right now, and if they happen to be gay and they have a loving partner at home, what if they die? what the soldier dies, and you drape a casket with the american flag? are you supposed to say, let's cut out some stars and say, you know what? you're only equal in some of those states? no