joining me now, david brock, democratic strategist and susan del percio, a republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. david, let me start with you, does bernie sanders have to win michigan to bring back some kind of moment and some kind of feeling that he is still in this race with a serious chance of turning around the lead of vice president -- former vice president biden, even with still not knowing the final count in california? >> right, yes, i think he does. particularly because senator sanders won last time and i think he needs to win it by a convincing margin. if you look at the other states in play on the 10th, it's going to be very hard if sanders doesn't have a substantial up in michigan to lead biden. you think about the 13th be is so gaunting for sanders because that may be the day we know essentially who the nominee is. and i think basically what's happened here is the democratic electorate ended up being more pragmatic than risk-adverse than many people had thought. people -- i think sanders people looked a little too soon, particularly in nevada, and there was a

. >> all right, thank you mayor lumumba for being with us tonight now let's go to my panel, david brock, the chairman of the democratic organization american bridge 2 1st century and susan del percio is a republican strategist and msnbc analyst. david, let me take from the last exchange i had with the mayor of jackson. politics in this are where clearly all of us would hope does not enter it and will not remain in small situations they have. there was an ad put out that the president and his team is fighting that it not be by an organization you were united states affiliated with, priorities usa, that really talks -- that shows the president making statements at the beginning that this was a hoax by the democrats, the coronavirus was a hoax, then that it will be gone, it was only a few people, it will disappear, and on and on until he finally got to where he's dealing with a national emergency. do you think it is appropriate and even constitutional for the president to be fighting for an ad that shows him saying things about this particular pandemic at different stages when obviously th

david: thank you so much for that report on the markets. to a globalponding pandemic. we speak with brockong former fema administrator about the measures u.s. is taking and what more it can do. is bloomberg. ♪ york, this isw "balance of power." president trump on friday declared a national emergency. in doing so, he enlisted the help of fema in responding to the growing crisis caused by the coronavirus. welcome now the former administrator of fema who served under president trump and alabama's emergency management. he now advises on how to handle emergencies. thank you for being with us. good to have you. there is so much fema can do. the president said he wants to use fema. what sorts of things can fema do? they handle natural disasters. this is something different. >> right. for public health emergencies, which has been declared along with a national emergency, those are two separate things. fema plays a vital role behind the scenes. right now hhs is the primary agency in charge in playing the role of instant command. fema is a secondary responder, and they are providing planning, techn