i am very pleased to have david brooks back at this table. welcome. >> great to be with you again. >> rose: the social animal. >> yeah, we're not rational animals. >> rose: this is an assault on tionity. >> no, we're both. we're rational and emotional. but you know, i live in a world, i live in the most emotionally avoided city on earth in washington. >> rose: yes, indeed. >> and i have been living with all these policy failures, so i covered the soviet union and we sent economists, we covered iraq oblivious to the culture, cover education, for the last 30 years we've been rearranginthe schools but never in the way that touches the real subject which is the emotional bond between the teacher and the student. and so for all this time we've had a bunch of policies based on a false and shallow view of human nature and i look at this other world, neuro science, cognite science, behaoral economics and they're giving us somethingeeper. and so i said i want to figure out what ty are saying about who we are so we c understand something deeper about o

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finally i am looking forward this summer to reading david brooks's new book called the social animal. i think david brooks is absolutely brilliant and i am looking forward to learning more about his insights. i understand from talking to him that he did a great deal of research on the brain, gathering together many studies and i think it is going to be a very compelling book. >> tell us what you are reading this summer. send us a tweet at booktv. >> we have in our society this view that we are divided selves. we have reason over here and emotion over here and the two are at war with one another like the see-saw. if you are emotionally or not rational and irrational your naughty emotional. and as society progresses to the extent that reason which is trust worthy can suppress the passions which are untrustworthy. so this bias has led to a view of human nature that we are fundamentally rational individuals who respond straight to incentives. it has led to academic discipline that try to study human behavior using the methods of physics, emphasizing what they can count and model and ignor

and finally, i am looking forward to the summer reading david brooks's new book called a social animalink david brooks is absolutely brilliant, and i am looking forward to learning more about his insight. understand from talking to him he did a great deal of research on the brain gathering together of many studies and it's going to be a very compelling book. >> gretchen morgans and joshua rosner talk about the 2008 financial collapse and the role played by the mortgage companies freddie mae and freddie mac. this lasts about an hour. [applause] >> thank you so much, david. we are really thrilled to be here at politics and prose as you know an iconic institution in washington, and it's just a thrill to be here with you and engage customers as well. that's a really fantastic and it's wonderful to meet david and to see in person those incredible institutions that everyone loves so much in washington. now, josh and i have been a little bit on the book tour. the book came out may 24, and among the questions we always get or often get from interviewers, by years of the book, e-mail, and my e-

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i think david brooks is absolutely brilliant, and i'm looking forward to

i think david brooks is absolutely brilliant.nd i'm looking forward to learning more about his insights. i understand from talking to him that he did a great deal of research on the brain, gathering together many, many studies. and i think it's going to be a very compelling book. >> tell us what you're reading this summer. send us is tweet at booktv. >> you're watching 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books on c-span2's booktv. >> and then, of course, there were other interesting stories that came about with -- in the city concerning the performing arts center. i tried to be a big supporter for the arts community. i'll never forget in 1977, '76. i got a call from some business people in the city and they said do you know mr. dario. i had never met him. and he owned the ocean state theater at the time which was the old lowe's state and he said they want to tear that place down and i said, that would be terrible. he said do you know him? i said i don't know him. well, could you call him and make an appointment and convince him no

i think the analysis that david brooks gave is exactly right. at any given point in time the 20% of the public cares about fiscal issues. sometimes it can be higher come sometimes lower. in 1997, the last time we had a consensus around balancing the budget, it was a little higher because the guy from texas that have run for president galvanized a lot of people and these people were all up for grabs and both parties were trying to figure out how to appeal the policy would give them a shot at them. right now the politics as i read them are pushing each side further and further to the base which means it is going to be very difficult to manage to work our way through this. indeed because of the rhetoric out there there are members coming home saying i will never move this way and trying to get a member as cynical as you may be but the members of congress and promise he's not going to do something to turnaround months later a matter how virtuous the act is it's difficult so the leadership in congress is really putting themselves into a corner, and i

also i look forward to reading the david brooks new book called the social animal. i think he is brilliant and i am looking forward to learning more about his insights. i and a stand he does a great deal of research on the brain gathering together with many studies and i think it will be a very compelling book >> host: dr. kissinger great to see you as always. congratulations on your extraordinary new book which is called quite simply come on china african not think of anybody else i would rather talk to about china. over the last two decades it has gone from a very important concern two important and urgent and primary concern for the united states. there is so many layers to the relationship we would get into all of it with you. let's begin with how china seas itself and how traditionally has seen itself as i was making my way through the book the right both in and his days in china believe they represent unique values in the world. you say the united states believes it has an obligation to set the values to every part of the world where china acts on the singular

it's amazing thing to me that i was able -- >> charlie: david brook wrote a column in the new york timeshich i found appealing where he said everybody looks to find themselves and their identity and the best thing to happen to you young is to lose your identity in something larger than you are and for you lose you are your identify in the films and doing your thing. in this film supe8 the lo story is central. the most important element. the fantasy of making a movie and the love ory. >> it is. yeah. the love story's always the most important thing to me in the movie and it can be between friends and tha and familial th the kid is talking to the main character and he needs the main character in this movie to have a love interest or you won't care about the main character and as he's talking to the main character in our movie he's going i can't believe you talked to that girl meaning in the scene we're discussing how stories work and how love stories are important and all we do is talk about the love story of super 8 and i think it would be hard for me to make a movie that i really cared a

i think the analysis that david brooks gave is exactly right. at any given point in time the 20% of the public cares about fiscal issues. sometimes it can be higher come sometimes lower. in 1997, the last time we had a consensus around balancing the budget, it was a little higher because the guy from texas that have run for president galvanized a lot of people and these people were all up for grabs and both parties were trying to figure out how to appeal the policy would give them a shot at them. right now the politics as i read them are pushing each side further and further to the base which means it is going to be very difficult to manage to work our way through this. indeed because of the rhetoric out there there are members coming home saying i will never move this way and trying to get a member as cynical as you may be but the members of congress and promise he's not going to do something to turnaround months later a matter how virtuous the act is it's difficult so the leadership in congress is really putting themselves into a corner, and i

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"new york times" columnist tom friedman, david brooks and roger cohen addressed that debate on our programast night. >> i was notn favor of the surge. i think we have four choices in afghanistan, we always had four choice, lose early, lose late, lose big or lose small. i prefer to lose early and small. there's no victory. >> charlie: that would recommend what policy. >> going down to the absolute minimum presence we need to maintain some kind of counterinsurgency. i think we've become enablers of just hugely bad behavior. bad behavior by pakistan, bad behavior by the afghan government. and this is what happens in all. we've done the same thing in the arab israeli center. we can arrest these guys and not those guys. let me make it simple, wre gone. the minute we're gone, you know just which tale back are goo and whicare bad and you will kill the bad one because your life will depend on it. because i'm tired of you telling me i can't do this and scratch my ear like that. >> afghanistan, i think we've ne our best with nation building. i don't know if we know how to establish a country anywher

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