that's syndicated columnist mark shields and new york times columnist david brooks.tleman, no shortage of terrible news this week. mark, let's start where we left off with margaret, the middle east. what is israel's ground invasion into gaza? what does that do, do you think to hopes for any kind of resolution here. >> i think it's a slippery slo just enlarging the military operation and military engagement because it's not simply increasing the possibility as margaret mentioned of civilian casualties which already are approaching 300 dead civilians. three quarters, 300 palestinians three quarters of whom are civilians and one quarter whom are children. and at the same time retaliation upon israel troops, shooting and firing them, trapping them or capturing them. so i think there is a problem of potential escalation here. >> woodruff: does this mean, david, the idea of any sort of resolution is just so far off in the distance. >> well, yes. we're sort in a parallel universe where sort of the military operation we've not seen before. so hamas has had no success and in

that's syndicated columnist mark shields and new york times columnist david brooks.as we wrote about in the morning email this morning, when you talk about immigration, there's policy and politics. let's tackle the policy first. there was maybe a photoop here at the white house, and the president made a point of saying there's a nation of immigrants and laws. he looked like he wanted to thread the needle a bit. is this a right balance? did he strike that? >> i think he did strike it but i think it's politically nothing that will happen, in my judgment, even as we drive to the august recess. they're too far apart. i think the democrats are not going to support a change in the 2008 law, which it does provide different coverage and different treatment of the children and others from guatemala and el salvador and honduras. and the republicans aren't going to vote for $1 billion. there are votes and everybody knows this and it has to pass the senate comprehensive immigration bill which passed the senate a year and a half ago, but they wouldn't do it with republican votes,

david brooks, mark shields.nk you. >> woodruff: and for more on the surprise from cleveland's home town star today. jeff is back with that. >> brown: four years ago cleveland cavalier fans were torching lebron james jerseys after the akron native-- and the team's all-time leading scorer-- announced he was leaving for the miami heat. >> i'm taking my talents to south beach. >> brown: a high school phenomenon, the cavs made lebron the n.b.a's number one pick in 2003 and he skyrocketed to stardom, carrying cleveland to the n.b.a finals in 2007, before losing to san antonio. in miami, james joined with fellow stars chris bosh and dwayne wade. >> we believe we can win multiple championships, if we take care of business and do it the right way. >> brown: the so-called "big three" did just that, taking miami to the finals four straight years and winning two titles. after losing this year to san antonio, james opted to become a free agent. and today, came word that the ten-time all star is heading home. in a personal es

david brooks, you've weighed in on this debate before. >> i disagree with them on the larger issue. don't know what they have been smoking up there. the haze. >> they didn't inhale. >> yeah, right. >> maybe they did. >> i have two basic issues. one, the effects on the teenager brain really are pretty significant. they acknowledge that in the editorial. i don't think we can sanction -- say, adults, fine, and if you're 18, you can't do it. don't think. second, i don't think the government should be sanctioning activity most mature out of it. i don't think it's the way we want to spend our minds. but, and here's something i do agree with my colleagues on, i could be wrong on marijuana. and so i wouldn't mind some state experimentation. really, what the editorial is calling for is federal legalization, allow states leeway. even though i'm opposed to it, i think throwing it to the states -- >> what are we learning from the states? >> yeah, i think -- we're learning from colorado that at least in terms of revenue there's a great deal of revenue. $184 million, something like that. also at

david brooks said so descriptively he never read about a conflict in the past where the, one of the participants said kill some more of my people. that's what hamas is saying. when hamas fires these rockets, hamas has no idea where they'll land. military installation, they hope. a day care center this, they don't care. empty parking lot, they don't care. they're just firing these rockets indiscriminately. israel doesn't have the luxury about not worrying about where these rockets land. they must respond swiftly in shooting out all rockets or else risk serious harm to its people. in thwarting these rocket attacks, israel depends on what is termed and named the iron dome. it's a missile defense system. but as a number of rockets being launched from gaza continue to surge, israel's iron dome resources are being depleted. last week secretary of defense requested congress allocate millions in emergency funding to help israel's defense system. after weeks of fighting, israel needs these funds to replace the weaponry used to destroy hamas incoming rockets but there is no guarantee israel won't need our

next from "the new york times" and cbs, david brooks. -- pbs, david brooks. [applause] somebody who wrote a book entitled "is this a great game or what?" which was the funniest book i ever read from espn, the one and only tim kurkjian. [applause] and one of my all-time favorites. to know her is to love her, from "usa today," christine brennan. [applause] and finally on the panel, the incomparable -- the incomparable george will. [applause] in the book is on the 100th anniversary of wrigley field, a nice little place on the north side. now it is my privilege to introduce our moderator, who has become a very great friend. you have a copy of one of his books. he has written two others, one on baseball, one on leon jaworski and james baker. he is an attorney from dallas, texas. an extraordinary fellow, he's here with his wonderful family. i would ask that you welcome please, talmage posten. [applause] >> before we begin, i'm going to take a little personal privilege. you see the rangers cap here. at the front table, we have part of the ownership group and executi

. >> we continue with david brooks of the, no times and historian michael beschloss. >> if you have a sense of your own rightness and you think politics is generally a competition between half truths, you're going to need the other people on the other side and value the similar later of tastes. you may disagree with the republican or democrat but you're still basically american and share the same culture and you know your side is half wrong. when you hae mentality of i'm half wrong and he's probably half right, it will be easier to come to an agreement. but if you have an eggotisticle at tiew 'tude of pim 100% right and he's 100% wrong, then it's hard to come to an agreement and i think we've had a failure of modesty about our own rightness and wrongness. >> we conclude with the "marks of genius" at the morgan library with assistant curator john mcquillen. >> i think it changes as we pass through the centuries from if an a chenet roman idea of genius being a sort of guardian spirit that everyone had, every man had his genius, every woman had her juno, to something more selective. 18th

. >> we continue with david brooks of the, no times and historian michael beschss. >> if you have a senseness and you think politics is generally a competition between half truths, you're going to need the other people on the other side and value the similar later of tastes. yay

and on this fourth of july, ruth marcus and michael gerson, substituting for mark shields and david brooks, are here to analyze the week's news. those are just some of the stories we're covering on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> i've been around long enough to recognize the people who are out there owning it. the ones getting involved, staying engaged. they are not afraid to question the path they're on. because the one question they never want to ask is, "how did i end up here?" i started schwab with those people. people who want to take ownership of their investments, like they do in every other aspect of their lives. >> united healthcare-- online at uhc.com. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the united states observes 238 years of independence today and except for some serious

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next from the new york times and pbs, david brooks. [applause] somebody who wrote a book entitled "is this a great game or what" which was the funniest book i ever read from espn, the one and only tim kurkjian. [applause] and one of my all-time favorites. to know her is to love her, from "usa today," christine brennan. [applause] and finally on the panel, the incomparable -- the incomparable george will. [applause] the book is on the 100th anniversary of wrigley field, a nice little place on the north side. now it is my privilege to introduce our moderator, who has become a very great friend. you have a copy of one of his books. he has written to others, one on baseball, one on leon jaworski and james baker. he is an attorney from dallas, texas. an extraordinary fellow, he's here with his wonderful family. i would ask that you welcome please, talmage posten. [applause] >> before we begin, i'm going to take a little personal privilege. you see the rangers cap here. at the front table, we have part of the ownership group and executive vi

and on this fourth of july, ruth marcus and michael gerson, substituting for mark shields and david brooks, are

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david brooks of the "new york times" wrote something indicating this is more of a roxy war than a contained struggle between the israelis and the palestinians. to what extent do you see this as proxy war between egypt and hamas in which they take shots at israel to gain advantage over each other? >> well, i take david brooks's point that if you want to understand israel palestine, you have to understand it in a better process but the timing of israel going after hamas is in part because it's become less of a proxy war. the old egyptian government with the muslim brotherhood and mr. morsi was much more sympathetic to hamas. they consider hamas a terrorist organization. they have given them less because the saudis have whacked them. and they haven't soon as much support from all the checks they've written. so i think there's a little less of that going on in this very direct consulate. >> ian bremer, thank you very much. adam? >> coming up, we are going to be counting down to argentina's default deadline. you're going to hear from our reporter on the ground. it's all coming up in the next hou

. >> reporter after reporter, people like david brooks say to me, they have never met anybody in politicsre confident of his own skills and his own intelligence. >> he is obviously off the charts intelligent. he has a clear sense of the direction he thinks the country needs to go. he is a very good decision-maker. we would spend a lot of time making sure we made good decisions but once you make them, you have to move on. >> how many times did you go to the oval office or wherever you had private conversations and said, mr. president, you are wrong. you're absolutely wrong. you are going to make a colossal mistake. do not go there. >> i will keep any of those conversations private. >> have you said to him that? >> i think it is very important important whether you're a head of a news organization or a president. you have to have people around you. i think that is -- there are certain people that he trusts that have his best interest at heart. you have to have the ability and private moments to express your opinion, but he is someone -- you are right. he is a very competent person. my sense

politics and polarization with presidential historian eschloss, who joins us, and also from new york, david brookswe just talked to senator manchin and congressman cooper, and they are in their arena, trying to make things work. aw do you see this moment in historical comparison in terms of polarization? >> well, you know, i think one way of looking at it on if it were a perfect system, then the most polarized congress would be at the most polarized times of american history, like the run-up to the civil war, perhaps a 1940, 1941, when americans were struggling whether we should go to war against hitler and the imperial japanese or not, and i hate to say it, but if you had to look at what was done in congress in those times compared to now, i think the congress of 2014 does not measure up very well. so wet is remarkable, were better off in the 1850's, there was better legislature in the -- 1850's russia mark >> they disagree, but i do not think there was such a habit of disagreeing almost out of custom. >> so the reflexive partisanship is on the rise. >> sure, and there were not a lot of members o

as i heard the republican conservative columnist in "the new york times," david brooks, say on "the news hour," he said this is the first -- i'm paraphrasing but this is what he said, it's the conflict i have ever known where the enemy says kill more of us. i join my friend, the republican leader, in doing what other nations refuse to do -- condemning the united nations human rights council's biased resolution, and we in this resolution condemn hamas. countries that voted for this, venezuela, cuba, china. i repeat, how would they like to look at their human rights violations? this resolution we as a country support in this con afflict alaskan peace which can only be realized for the demilitarization of gaza. they talk about tunnels. mr. president, these are not tunnels. these are major operations costing millions of dollars to dig a hole in the ground. why? going to israeli settlements, kill innocent people. now, offering the resolution before the senate, we stand with israel and its right to defend itself, its security and most importantly its people. i, mr. president, said earlier i wa

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it's hard for me to imagine -- i was just listening to david brooks and ruth marcus on "meet the press terrific layout of their own thinking. look, i spent a lot of my time in and out of drug and alcohol treatment centers around the country. associated with the national association of drug courts, west huddleston, and we think increasing marijuana availability will predictablpre and it has, after three years of reducing adolescent drug use, it's gone up. no use will come of this. they say let's make it more like alcohol and cigarettes. for gosh's sake, cigarettes kill 400,000 people a year -- >> but they're not illegal. >> well, what do we want to do? make another big tobacco out of the marijuana industry? it's another carcinogenic smoked compound with euphoric impact. i think, again, this is bad policy and we ought to carefully consider what science is telling us about this. >> beth, we're already seeing this with some gop presidential candidates already. so far governor chris christie in colorado this week, slammed the state for legalizing pot. then senator rand paul, who may be runn

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it's david brooks from "the new york times."nd he says that we have to stop looking at this through 1979 lenses, that it's just two parties involved here, israelis and palestinians. here is what he said about you. he said what happened -- what's happened of course is that the middle east has begun with richard haass of the council on foreign relations has called its 30 years war, an overlapping series of clashes and proxy wars that could go on for decades and transform identities, maps, and the political contours of the region. meaning there are more parties involved. this is bigger than that. it's saudi arabia, it's iraq and on and on and on in that region. >> think of it as like california or a complex geological area with multiple fault lines. we've been talking the last few minutes about one, which is one between israel and various palestinians. but there is fault lines within the palestinians between hamas and the other part of the palestinian authority. you have sunnis versus shia. iran versus saudi arabia and the arabs. y

i am not particularly interested in reading the musings of david brooks. you know, i feel like that has been played out. i am really kind of excited by the way of the internet has given platforms to writers of the don't think we would have heard from necessarily of this was ten years ago. she writes for the new yorker. doing hilarious stuff on twitter. it is not always in the pages of a magazine and newspaper. often times it is on people's tumbler's or twitter those are some, but if you look at the list of writers. >> we have about ten minutes left. if anyone has a question in the audience. we just have to use the microphone in the back to be blood on listening. could you use the microphone. >> the writing and florence. >> the mainstream sources the people listening to to cover the issues. >> sometimes i get the sense that it has. i would not say my riding, but the of times in my get the sense that something has been happening. i have no proof of that. i am seeing conversations reflected on television, cable news shows and also scripted narratives, half-ho

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. >> i asked richard haass about this, and this is an article by david brooks in "the new york times" today where he mentioned richard haass. and he said what happens, of course, and he is talking about what is happening in gaza, he says in the middle east, it has become what richard haass of the council on foreign relations has called its 30 years war, an overlapping series of clashes and proxy wars that could go on for decades and transform identities, maps, and the political contours of the region. >> yeah. this is a conflict that really there is no easy fix to because you've got two groups that want the same thing. >> this is the possibility of a 30-years war as he said? >> i think it's already been going on for 30. we may be looking at 30 more. >> really? >> and if you look at the current situation, the demands that hamas has and the palestinians have and the demands that the israelis have are diametrically opposed. they're not even close to a solution. they may get a ceasefire, but if they do, we'll be having this conversation two years from now. >> also, there is sort of the me

. >> charlie: but reporter after reporter, people like david brooks say to me they've never met anybody in politics more confident of his own skills and his own intelligence. >> well, he's obviously got off the charts intelligence. he's a very competent person. he has a clear sense of the direction the country needs to. go he's very good decision maker. we would spend a lot of time making sure we made good decisions but once you make them you have to move on, there's not a lot of navel gazing with him. >> charlie: how many times have you gone into the oval office and said to him, mr. president, you're getting ready to make a colossal mistake, don't go there? >> i'll keep any of those conversations private. >> charlie: but have you come out and said to him -- >> well, i think it's very important whether you're the head of a news organization, a company or the president, you have to have people around you who just aren't laying rose petals in front of your way. there are certain people he's worked with that he trusts who have his best interests at heart and you have to have the ability in

was maureen dowd's infamous experience with edibles in colorado where she ate a lot, and also david brooksown admission of his youthful pot smoking indiscretions, good for laughs and snickers. now, arguably the most influential editorial page in the nation, the great lady, beacon of the establishment, saying, "the federal government should repeal the ban on marijuana full stop." shouldn't be too surprising, though, since that stance lines up with the public's view. according to pew, a majority support marijuana legalization. "the new york times" in the past has been at the fore front of public opinion. now "the times" seems to follow public o ppinion as much as leading. joining me, andrew rosenthal with "the new york times." what about the idea you guys are coming out with this after this reached this crucial threshold in public opinion? did that factor into the decision to do this? >> it did in a certain sense. it's indisputably true that public opinion has shifted. no question about it. we've been careful and cautious on this subject. we found ourselves covering this issue just more and

was a little bit occupied back in june in hong kong and wasn't paying attention to people like david brooks and david ignatius and jeffrey too many hawaii were saying, but i looked back to see how the narrative formed in the wake of our disclosures and our unveiling of our source. and it is really remarkable. i mean, i'm mystified to this day how it happened that almost overnight, within 24 hours, all of these journalists who never heard of the name edward snowden before, had no idea who he was or what he did or what motivated him were able instantly to diagnose him medically, psychologically. [laughter] in a remarkably coordinated way. this consensus arose that he was a fame-seeking faressist. and literally -- narcissist. and literally, that phrase aeared in countless newspaper columns and persists to this day even though at the very time that those people were smearing him, demeaning and maligning his character in that way as a means of distracting attention from the revelations, he was telling me -- and we were executing his plan -- which was i'm going to unveil myself one time and come

. >> david brooks, columnist and the "new york times," says something else is going on -- the evolutions my morning mustard from the "new york times." rob, how do you interpret that? because we are going online, where it can all be traceable that reputation is now going to the forefront and government regulation may be -- do you buy that? >> not quite. i think it is ironic. even though there are these new ideas that are disrupting old ones, brands are as important as they have ever been, and trusting brands is as important -- ,> but isn't that the important you do not need the government to do that, michelle? >> the flipside is you may want to rent out your apartment in new york city, and you probably have the right to think about that, but what about your neighbors? is it ok for your neighbors to have people coming in and out of their apartment? is it ok if you have young children to know that there is sort of a constantly evolving neighbor next-door that you don't know anything about? i do think there are these important questions that the government has to step in. >> i agree. there