up next david bruen recalls graduating from northwestern university --dieter gruen recalls graduating from northwestern university and joining the atomic bomb project. he discusses government support for science from the 1940's to the present day. this is from the voices of the manhattan project, created by the heritage foundation and los alamos historical society. born onn: i was november 21, 1922 in waldorf, germany. interviewer: where is that? mr. gruen: waldorf is a small village near the town of [indiscernible] better-knownar the .own of why more -- weimar interviewer: what was your childhood like? wasgruen: my childhood very, very pleasant. my father was the principal of a school. my mother -- my father had a devoted marriage. i had one brother older than i. in that village. went to primary school there. and did all the things that ,mall children, little boys do including using a roller skate on a steep hill and scaring my mother out of her skull with my derring-do. [laughter] ?nterviewer: was it mountainous rollerskating on a steep hill? no, this was a hill in the village. on t