david bruno, robert schlatt, former defense attorneys and prosecutors. is it a precursor?> if anyone in the russia investigation gets indicted, charges or whatever? >> has to be a federal prosecution for the pardon to take place, and obviously there is backlash that sheriff joe was very staunch supporter of president trump's campaigned with him, et cetera, and think about it, he pardoned him before he was sentenced. his sentencing isn't scheduled until october and only convicted of a misdemeanor, he wasn't convicted of a felony. is he willing to do it before someone is sentenced on such a lower level charge? i have no doubt there will be discussions of potential pardons down the road. eric: can the president pardon someone before they're indicted? >> yes, as long as the crime has been committed. they can be pardoned. but there doesn't have to be formal charges yet, the crime has to be committed, not for future conduct. eric: david, you think we'll see more? >> yeah, i do. there has been a lot of criticism about this decision lately. and the fact is it's his absolute power