it features david callahan of demos and yaron brook of the ayn rand center.ated by john mckay. coming up, naiomi prinse with a novel set in the great depression. a case for the carbon tax. and what is the economy for anyway? also coming up is a physicist, the newly-formed watershed opera, a radio theater performance of "miracle on 34th street," and a collaboration between the bushwick book club in seattle rock orchestra. all of that is

. >> reporter: david callahan lived through that day on the cruiser, uss new orleans.him so much, he never went back. but this year, he couldn't stay away. >> the more i thought about it, the more i thought it's been 70 years! that's more than most people live. >> reporter: callahan decided to join about 3,000 people at pearl harbor, the place where world war ii started for the united states. firsthand memories share bide fewer and fewer people each year. >> will all pearl harbor survivors stand as able? [ cheering and applause ] >> reporter: the survivors association founded in 1958 is dissolving at the end of the month because of health and other issues affecting its aging members. >> duane: time has taken its toll on a generation. >> our battle cry is, remember pearl harbor. >> reporter: in wash washes, emily smith, kron4 news. this holiday season give your family the gift they can all share... ... verizon 4g lte smartphones ! like the droid charge. and the stratosphere. don't miss the best deals at the right price. on the network they deserve. get the powerful droi

the blessing of enough ": rejecting material greed and embracing spiritual hunger" and author david callahan, and a frequent guest on this program, the author of "the soul of leadership." you said to me something that resonated. first in the consumer should do is learn to stop spending money that they haven't earned to buy things that they don't need to impress people they don't like. you went on to tell me that buying if you have f stuff we doend need with money we don't have, it's to keep up with the joneses. america got selfish. and america is paying. is it as simple as that? >> americans are selfish, greedy, complaisant and has a sense of entitlement. we only have basics here. >> we have a government that is divided quite frankly right now about what it's role should be. what is the ethical, the moral role, i guess, for government to help us out of this mess we're in? >> i personal ly and i think modern self righteousness is jealouscy with a halo. you can't impose morality, i think. it's a natural expression of our emotional and spiritual maturity. and by and large, we are at a very earl

the debaters are david callahan and yaron brook. this is just over an hour and half. >> good evening, everyone. thank you for coming out tonight. i am the program director, part and this is part of our series of debates on principles presented by demos and the ayn rand institute. the topic of tonight's debate is government, what is its proper role, and it features david callahan on demos and yaron brook of the ayn rand center. it is moderated by attorney john mckay g i want to mention a few events coming up to our series. a timely novel set in the great depression. making the case for a carbon tax. and local activists who ask what is the economy for any way. also coming up is a physicist, the newly formed watershed opera, a performance of "miracle on 34th street," and a school musical collaboration between the bush took book club and the seattle rock orchestra. all that is happening in the next two weeks. if you want to stay on top of what is going on, find out on townhallseattle.org. the best way is to become a member. it provides

we are privileged to have with us here tonight david callahan. he is an author. he is a commentator and lecturer. his books, in particular "the cheating culture and the moral center" are tremendous commentaries, worthy of your consideration. he is a graduate of hampshire college and holds a ph.d. in politics from princeton university. to my left is yaron brook of the ayn rand institute, a well- known community advancing objectivism. he is a writer and commentator. we were talking beforehand. we are hoping our debate -- we are not using as a yardstick the presidential debates, just to put you all at these. what we hope for tonight is engagement on important ideas, important issues. we have two a tremendous protagonists. we are asking all of you to participate. we will have plenty of opportunity and time for questions for all of you for our tremendous debaters. i would like to jump into our discussion tonight. my role will be simply to move this along to various topics, but not to be afraid to linger on important topics, as our debaters and chairman may determine t

. >> david callahan and the ayn rand center recently faced off in a debate on the role of government.was called a tool used to aid brooks. they counter that wealth disparity is good because it's a product of freedom. their debate is just over an hour and a half. >> the topic of tonight's debate is government, what is the proper role. it's moderated by former u.s. attorney, john mckay. and before i say more about tonight's program, i want to mention a few events coming up through our center for civic life series here at town hall. first of all, a timely novel set in the great depression. make a case for a carbon tax, and local activist john degroff who ask what is the economy for anyway. also coming up is a physicist, the newly formed watershed opera, seattle radio theater's performance of miracle on 34th street, and a very cool literally collaboration between the book club and seattle rock orchestra, and all of that stuff is happening in the next two weeks. it's typical for town hall. if up to the stay in touch with everything we have going on, you can find out more at town hallseattl

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i want to thank for being with us -- i want to thank david callahan and yaron brook for being with us. we have had this debate about the role of government for as long as there have been government. it is a healthy debate. i want to thank our two debaters. please join me in thanking them. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> we will take your comments and questions on "washington journal." then we will have a debate over a payroll tax discussion. first lady michelle obama and bills the white house holiday decorations later. this morning on "washington journal," we will talk

>>reporter: david callahan lived through that incident.er went back with this year he could not stay away. >> the more i thought about it the more i thought you know, it has been 70 years that is more than some people live. >>reporter: he decided to join about 3000 people in pearl harbor the place where war two started for the united states. >> will all pearl harbor survivors stand as able. >>reporter: the pearl harbor association is dissolving at the end of the month because of health and other things is telling its members. time has taken a toll on this generation. this makes it all the more critical that the december--that december 7th is not forgotten. >>pam: coming next, gary has the answer to sports and the head. and how could she corn began winning touchdown actually cost the high school the state championship? gary explained all up next in sports. >>gary: good evening everybody, miami said today they were out of the bidding for the game's best player. meanwhile, everyone is feeling good in miami. they signed this guy, he is a left-

it features david callahan of demos and yaron brook of the ayn rand center.y john mckay. coming up, naiomi prinse with a novel set in the great depression. a case for the carbon tax. and what is the economy for anyway? also coming up is a physicist, the newly-formed watershed opera, a radio theater performance of "miracle on 34th street," and a collaboration between the bushwick book club in seattle rock orchestra. all of that is happening in the next two weeks. it is typical for town hall. if you want to stay in touch, you can find out more at our web site. the best way is to become a member. membership starts at just $35. it provides a discount on books, tickets, and more. best of all, it gives you a feeling you are part of everything we do here, over 350 events a year. we are a member-supported organization. you can pick up a membership card in the lobby or sign up online. tonight's debate will be moderated by a seattle native john mckay, who grew up on capitol hill and attended seattle prep high school and the university of washington. he served as u.s. a

i want to thank david callahan and yaron brook for being with us. we have had this debate about the role of government for as long as there have been government. it is a healthy debate. i want to thank our two debaters. please join me in thanking them. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> coming up, attorney general eric holder is the first speaker at a justice the part foreman and children's exposure to violence. a panel of experts on the effect children's exposure to violence has on the community. then, a look at how the economy and unemployment affects children exposed to violence. later, a discussion on prosecuting violent child offenders as adults. tomorrow, c-span's "road to the white house focuses on next week's iowa caucuses, with three live events from the state. at 11:30 a.m. eastern, newt gingrich hosts a town hall meeting. then in the afternoon at 1:20 p.m., mitt romney holds a meet and greet in clinton to discuss job than the economy. at 8:00 p.m.,

asquif, baldwin, balfer, callahan, winston churchhill, bonner, david lloyd george. robert arthur salisbury all suffered from depression. arnold: that's correct. brian: severe, very often? arnold: yes, often severe. again, i was astounded to find that. that there would be that many. in fact, in the book i almost wondered whether being depressed is one of the criteria for becoming a british prime minister. certainly winston churchhill really set the tone. his depression, in many instances, was incapacitating. brian: what about winston churchhill became very depressed in 1915. charles degahl became upset. all of this you said let to depression. ghandi, kahn was depressed. how were they treated when they became depressed? did you find that arnold: most, almost all, did not take advantage of psych trick help. certainly -- psychiatric help. either they couldn't admit it or their advisors or whomever would not find it politicaled a van tayjouse for that to become known. winston churchhill, his main way of handling what he called the black dog that would come over him, was