david cay johnston, what is the fact here?> donald absolutely without question trying to get casino gambling in florida. he hired lobbyists. there are of news clips you can go back and read about. his denial is typical of a very important feature about donald. he is one of these people that whatever he says at the moment, that is the truth. to him. it is of the objective truth or the empirical reality, but to donald, it is the truth. what he said is completely false. on the other side of this, jeb bush, you know, should not get away with saying, i cut taxes $19 billion without a piece of context. state debt under his watch rose by more than i think $22 billion, and he was the beneficiary of the housing bubble that alan greenspan claims he could not see, but i wrote about was very obvious long before the bubble popped and so did a few other people. so neither of the two gentlemen here has a clean hands. another let's go to heated exchange from wednesday night. this time it is regarding trump 's suggestion bush's views on immigr

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