clear that they will hold and putting efforts to undermine them will fail. finally, can we have david char through the times, please? thank you very much, dave's 1st question to the secretary lincoln. so actually it's been reported to the wall street journal today, the saudi arabia and the you a, have those rebuffed attempts to set up conversations with president biden in recent days. what does this not tell us about relations with these 2 important gulf states and what is, what's your message trying to encourage them to produce more oil during this crisis to the foreign secretary, please? you said a few days ago that you would absolutely support individual britons going to ukraine to take part in the fighting that we have reports now about 4, which is serving soldiers in the crane, possibly on their way. what information can you give us about that? please, and how's your message changed as far as that concerned? and i might just add in your opening comments, you did talk about asking nato allies to invest more. does that mean we can expect that you will push more defense spending in the u