david cole is a law professor of georgetown university law center and legal affairs correspondent for"the nation" magazine. david, thank you for being with us. why'd you lay out what is at stake today. talk about the affordable care act, the patient protection and affordable care act the supreme court is minutes away from issuing a ruling on. >> it is a piece of legislation that seeks to assure everyone can get health care in the united states. it does so by guaranteeing that people can buy health care and not be discriminated against based on pre-existing conditions. but then it also says that those people who can afford to buy health care insurance must do so or pay a tax if they choose not to. the reason for that is if you ensure that people can get health care without discrimination based on pre- existing conditions as an incentive for people to become freeloaders and wait until they get sick and then only by -- only then buy insurance. so this is we will make sure that people cannot be freeloaders by waiting until they get sick to purchase the health care. the principal question

david cole? >> that is quite remarkable. two things are remarkable. one, everybody thought kennedy was the decisive vote here, that if he went with the liberals, it would be upheld. if you want with the conservatives, it would be struck down. in fact, he went with the conservatives and chief justice roberts turned out to be the one who broke from the conservatives and went with the court with the liberals to uphold the law. the sector remarkable thing, at least from the opening line of justice kennedy's, the conservative justices joined by kennedy in this instance would have not only invalidated the individual mandate, they would have struck down the entire statute because one particular provision they conclude it was unconstitutional. that is a really remarkable position, and really put us way back beyond square one in terms of starting over. >> and the idea this continues, a private entrance, will stop the momentum for saying clearly the whole system is broken? >> well, yes, but you cannot let the perfect the enemy of the good. this is a law, as hil

and i look at institutions like the center for constitutional rights and its emblematic leader, david cole, and i ask, well, what is the motive? no more exalted than is necessary to explain his behavior, and that is that he hates war, he hates the use of force, and he isn't particularly fond of the government of the united states. and i think those things are all at work here. and, therefore, what do i recommend? what would i like to happen? what i would like to happen is that we could return to a simpler time when a simple code enacted by a great and decent man, abraham lincoln, would be enough. is it enough? i'm afraid not. but what we're left with is a absolute monstrosity which is so powerfully described in this book. >> thank you, charles. [laughter] >> charles, i wish you would say what you really think. [laughter] >> next time. >> so this is a tremendous book. it is a pleasure to read. every page has insights in it. i'm just going to highlight a couple of themes that are related to but maybe beyond, actually, what jack already summarized and ask a couple of questions. so the subtitl

went from holland in the glider, kerry and the top command of the 101st, including general and david cole'screw a couple months later become famous from saying, in knots to determine when they demand that. so that's just a brief snapshot of cronkite. some are bigger. cronkite's great friend was like cronkite, trained by the eighth army air force to fly in combat missions. like cronkite, homer covered the 303rd bomb group audit up somewhere. and after that he moved to the mediterranean theater. he pointed out to commando raid, insidious commando raids behind enemy lines. but in the south of france. the first is the celebrated incident in the movie pac man. i'm sure you're familiar where george c. scott washes is under thing and says kurds, always courage. it's a very controversial moments in world war ii history. the reason pat wanted to commando committee reached move forward that he had reporters ready to go and he didn't want to be embarrassed. that's why there is a great tackle more. bigger later covered a great push up the boot of italy. he was on the beachhead and see how for two minds

important to her state, she calls it the heart of the law, but i think it's also important to note and david cole when you were interviewing him before. and that is that the supreme court said very clearly that their opinion, quote, does not foreclose other pre-emption and constitutional challenges to the law as interpreted and applied after it goes into effect. in other words, they're saying that this part of the law which they did uphold could still be challenged in a lower court. and it also -- i would say limited the authority of what jan brewer's police officers can do because they can stop and briefly design somebody, but they cannot hold somebody unless they contact federal officials. so it does uphold what she's saying, but this doesn't preclude more legal challenges to that part of the law which she calls the heart of sb 1070. >> the court saying now arizona can implement those provisions of the law and once it's -- tolding -- holding somebody beyond the authority of a police officer's reasonable a lot of time. >> but you still have to check with federal immigration agents, though, so th

. >> david cole with the committee on national legislation, question for mr. wellstone.nt administration budget was released a number of members of congress said that the money for the national security ministration was inadequate, and said that you were basically walking away from the agreement you made in the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty. someone drank if you can go through with us the thinking on budget you presented, and is this administration living up to its commitments under s.t.a.r.t. treaty? >> i'm just please refer to me as mr. will stall from time to time, david. thank you. david was a great help as were a number of people here on the new s.t.a.r.t. process, so we got to work very closely together. i think it's a very partisan gain that is being played on the administration to you. i unfortunate the criticism by people who know in fact the details but think it's good optics to argue the country. the facts are this. that in the context of new s.t.a.r.t., the president submitted a plan as requested by congress the 1251 plan which said it was our intention to pursue pro

. >> david cole with the friends committee on nationa