now is julie roginsky, democratic strategist, and author of the salty politics news letter, and david corn, msnbc political analyst, and washington bureau chief for mother jones. it's great to have both of you with us. julie, surprise, surprise, russell vought gets a pretty important and serious cabinet appointment from donald trump after all of the months we have heard both trump and vought distancing themselves from one another, trump saying he doesn't know anything about project 2025. now he appoints the coauthor, one of the lead architects of this nefarious program to head the omb. >> and not just any department. he put them in a place where he can actually dismantle the federal government just as project 2025 predicted they were going to do, to put 20,000 loyalists, which is about five times or four times the number of political appointees we have in the federal government now into places. and what this is going to do, understand, people think, we can survive four years of donald trump, but this is going to create a brain drain of people who are experts. and replace them with trump an

david burke's plan and wanted to help your typical is o feed 5,000 people impacted by hurricane helene. 100 volunteers northwestern carolina with turkeys and also ham, dressing, potatoes, colored grains, cornving all the trimmings with it. as a secondary meal for people to come and get their thanksgiving day meal so they can continue to eat even after we are gone. >> lows handed out 3,000 meals in the nashville area. they hired restaurant workers out of work to make this all happen. >> we are barely scratching the surface because so many people need help. this will be such a long process as this community looks to rebuild. >> just a small part of the massive effort going on today, might, i will send it back to you. >> mike: a beautiful story of those who had their lives turned upside down by hurricane helene. madison scarpino, thank you for that, julie. speech of the department of government efficiency or d.o.g.e. cochair elon musk and vivek ramaswamy will talk to lawmakers on capitol hill to discuss major government reform. on the agenda, the national debt and elon that's posted on x a percentage of people don't even know there is such a thing as national debt and those who do t know how

everybody -- you know, jack daniel's, david, that's a quick way to say, you know what, donald trump, here's what we have to say. no, we're making our own whiskey. we know it's corn. >> i've been trying to get you to weigh in on vaccines and moderna, down five today on rfk jr. you didn't seem to think it was that big of an issue prior days. >> i don't know. i think there's a public health issue. >> pfizer's also down, by the way, 2.5%. >> because the vaccine business could be in -- i don't know. on the run? >> yeah. again, back to appointments that will occur in the incoming administration. will rfk run health policy for the united states? rfk jr.? that would include the fda, the cdc, the ihs. >> well, those -- these are agencies that have staff, and i think that when you get into them, you'd like to think, you know what, i'm going to upend the staff, but the staff's in charge. they're everywhere. they're big. they're powerful, and they're just hidden. you could come in and run that agency and realize, i'm not getting anything that's my way. nothing. that's what will happen. >> that's not a very bannon-like message. >> no. bannon? how's he doing? wow. bannon and

david corn, washington _ beyond our borders. david corn, washington bureau _ beyond our borders.ond our borders. david corn, washington bureau chief with i washington bureau chief with mother jones, thank you. live pictures from brazil, rio dejaneiro looking at air force one. we're awaiting president 0ne. we're awaiting president biden any moment now for the expected to come down those stairs with that that's after his visit to the amazon. the 620 his visit to the amazon. the g20 summit will be starting on monday. that is where we will see many leaders for some of the most advanced economies meeting there. joe biden expected to be emerging from the airplane at any moment for that will be covering the 620 g20 right here on bbc news. joe biden has become the first sitting us president to visit the amazon rainforest. following the apec summit in peru — president biden flew to the brazilian city of manaus, the largest city in the amazon. that's where he promised more funding to fight climate change, including an additional $50 million to the amazon conservation fund. that brings the