david david and actually, he got -- david: and he will have a chance to go at it, i believe. a lot of folks out here. some of them wandering. now this is the ninth hole. brett quigley, it's his 18th. ian: and at least 60 feet for his birdie. i think he'd be obviously ecstatic to hole it. two putts would be good. a good solid week for brett quigley. knock that one in to finish at 17 under, just two behind the lead of steve stricker. he has played very nicely. and there's the leaderboard. stricker by one, but he's in great position at 17. we are at the john deere classic. brandt snedeker enjoying himself, as is tim petrovic. he just needs one or two more putts. tveotsesh s. in control.loi he look at that. ws ian: back over at the ninth. just a reminder that some of the players finishing on the front side today. and that's a beautiful shot down from snoopy 2. metlife snoopy 2 has been cruising the skies this week, giving us a beautiful shot of the t.p.c. deere run. cruising the skies at about 1,200 feet. nothing like a shot from the blump. it looks fantastic when you get a good v

david david and actually, he got -- david: and he will have a chance to go at it, i believe. a lot of folks out here. some of them wandering. now this is the ninth hole. brett quigley, it's his 18th. ian: and at least 60 feet for his birdie. i think he'd be obviously ecstatic to hole it. two putts would be good. a good solid week for brett quigley. knock that one in to finish at 17 under, just two behind the lead of steve stricker. he has played very nicely. and there's the leaderboard. stricker by one, but he's in great position at 17. we are at the john deere classic. brandt snedeker enjoying himself, as is tim petrovic. he just needs one or two more putts. steve stricker in control. i love these shots. look at that. ian: back over at the ninth. just a reminder that some of the players finishing on the front side today. and that's a beautiful shot down from snoopy 2. metlife snoopy 2 has been cruising the skies this week, giving us a beautiful shot of the t.p.c. deere run. cruising the skies at about 1,200 feet. nothing like a shot from the blump. it looks fantastic when you

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david: you guys are going in opposite directions. >> i say amerigroup and regardless of what happens -- david: just when the feds are about to take it over? >> we will have more of the services so while there are cost pressures there is opportunity. david: john, managed healthcare? >> minus 2.4% is in the exciting. i don't think they run the business very well. david: you are excited by bond? >> i do because this is inflation protected bonds outside the u.s. when the world dumps dollars and the inflation rate go up you get a premium and make a gain. >> when i see the black helicopters overhead i will say ok. but if you want to protect yourself fidelity and vanguard have cheaper mutual funds. >> these you tips and u.s. bonds, i want non-u.s. bonds. david: that is it for foreclosu"forbes on fox". keep it right .

david walker. he was also head of the government accountability office as comptroller general of the united states. >> and let's ask david because david, unfortunately, is a total numbers nerd. this is all he does every day while the rest of us are hanging out with our families david is crunching numbers on a calculator and, david, give us the long and short of it. the president says that his health care reform plan won't increase the deficit. or actually is. it's more like henry waxman and nancy pelosi right now. is that correct? >> he doesn't really have one yet. >> no, it's not based on the plan that's on the table. let's talk about the positives and the negatives. the president is correct to say that the status quo was unacceptab unacceptable. health care costs are out of control and we need to move 10 some level of basic and essential coverage. however, you cannot reduce costs by expanding coverage. that's an oxymoron. we're underfunded $38 trillion in medicare and we're not doing anything meaningful about it and we're avoiding tough choices with regard to what level of coverage, what about payment systems, what about tax incenti

we appreciate you taking the time, david. david, as we said, jim allen is with us. we will take a break and when we come back, jim cramer will be along with this trade and will be reacting to another bizarre headline out of an airline. then arnold passing out ious. there is a way to trade on the likelihood they become real cash wrch over here? here you go. eleven sixteenths... (annouer) from designing some the world's cleanest and most fefficient jet engines. to buiing more wind turbines than anye in the country... the people of gere working together... creating innovation today for america's tomorrow. no problem! >>> welcome back to "street signs". oil ends the day at a five-week low. the final trades coming in around $64 a barrel. you can point to the demand weakness or the fact that there ecomic uncertainty and you have to pay attention to the technical factors. we can't blame it on the dollar today or have much influence there concerning it has been in a tight range around that $80 level. if you can use an if then statement. if the s&p stays above 880, oil price

david, as you recall, here's what she said about cap and trade when she was running for vice president back at the debate. watch. >> do you support capping carbon emissions? >> i do, do i. >> david, a fish goes flip-flop. is that what we just saw? >> well, you know, i read that op-ed, and i had to tell you, there were two words that did not appear in it, climate change or another two words, global warming. she wrote a whole piece about cap and trade without talking about the reason people want to put it in change. climate change, you'll remember during the campaign, she raised questions about whether climate change, global warming is really being caused by human activity and then quickly was shot down. i actually believe that she doesn't believe that climate change is occurring, and that we need not -- we don't have to worry about it. so it only makes sense that you don't have to do anything about it. that is a position so far out of the mainstream. you know what? from where she lives in ab, she probably can see the polar caps melting. >> david corn, thank you very much. we appreciate it. tamron, i think david is on to something there in the idea that when palin was campaigning for vice president, she was being politically expedient. in this op-ed, we were seeing her true position as extreme as it may seen. >> people are debating whether she has a political future or not. we talked about that and been criticized for talking about it. i think if she does get a voice in radio or television and has a large audience, many republicans will bow to her as they do rush limbaugh because if she's got the numbers and you know how important that is, especially around election time, i bet you some of these guys snarking at her meaning the lawmakers out there, might be on her radio show in one day be asking for her help. i don't know. >> i think i say for both of us, governor palin if you're thinking about a tv career, go for it. the water's fine. come on in. we welcome. >> you oh, boy, david, you're something. rnc chairman michael steele

david wilson. david, on that point, the reaction does seem like the traditional democrat have been flip-flopped. >> what we're seeing on our site is a broad range of opinions about this. we are an african-american site, so there's a lot of diversity of opinion. some are saying that president obama shouldn't have talked without having all the facts and some are seeing his stepping into this as sort of standing up for those who are sort of racially have some sort of racial injustice. >> that's interesting that you say even within the black community, there is a divide because there is an assumption that as african-americans, you might be able to identify what happened, but what's the divide, or how does that, that's intruging to a lot of people. >> we had some columnists who felt this is a battle of egos and not racial profiling. that's one extreme. the other is that this is sort of the classic racial profiling. >> so what david was saying about the conservatives though, older, white males, are you seeing that audience give thoughts regarding this is his home and you can't go into someone's home without a warrant? >> you see that. you see people saying, look, if this happened, i would be upset. some say i'm a white american and if this happened to me, i would be irate. >> but the fact that more people are not sympathizing, that if you go to most conservative websites, there is huge outrage, not of a fact that gates was arrested inside his home, but at president obama for condemning it. is there a sense in the african-american community online that there's a double standard. that if this was a white man, they would be up in arms. >> absolutely. i'm sure you guys seen how they're starting to run ads and really asking you know, if some of the local democrats actually think that you know, the cambridge police officers are stupid. they're taking advantage of this. >> trying to politicize it. >> some of that is exp

david, but many of us. >> i saw the mad. >> good. that's a good segue, david. david, who is so well sourced in the white house that he refers to the president as a senior administration official. >> let me see if he's calling. i -- i think it's self-to confident to do everything at once. the world leader came through and saw obama and then a bunch of journalists, we said, what was obama like? he said, i've never seen a lead sore self-assured. i think in the language, obama will denote self-confidence. so and so has 100 obamas, somebody else has 80 obamas. the good side to that is because they know they're so much smarter than you are, they take your criticism with a degree of exwhat anymority don't. the bush administration, after you criticize them, they call you and say, you're a complete and total loser. my the obama people call you and say, we like you, it's so sad you're a complete and total loser. the other positive thing is his ability to hire hillary clinton and get this cavalcade of brains. if we're attacked by terrorists in the harvard-yale game we're screwe

joining us with the cnbc edge, david kelly, chief market strategist at jpmorgan funds. right? >> yes. and david hefty. >> in toledo, ohio. david always has a sunny outlook. >> two davids here. >> david kelly always has a sunny outlook. and you take the housing numbers as a good sign why? >> i don't always have a sunny outlook. i smile when i talk about the economy. i do think it's a good sign. if you look at single family housing starts up about 18% in the second quarter relative to the first quarter. there are still at low levels. the delta from a low level have nowhere to go but up. as housing begins to rebound, you will help stem the loss of construction jobs. you will help support prices. it's very important and positive that housing starts are up. >> don't we have a lot of unsold inventory? >> sure.. you have to think about the natural demographic. the population growth would absorb 1.6 million houses per year. we're only building about 600,000. we could actually push up housing starts and still gradually ease away that inventory of unsold homes. >> mr. hefty, you don't buy into this rally.y. you say it's a rally in a sec

david: neil, gold bars? >> welcome to the cookie. it costs a fortune to buy and sell and its long-term returns are lousy. david: so you're saying drink up? >> drink up. diageo. david: they sell aloft liquor. >> we're talking about vodka, johnny walker whiskey. it's inexpensive and global. david: jack? >> unfortunately, a lot of the input costs of these alcoholic beverages i believe are going to rise, cut into the margins of diageo and hurt stock. david: but we'll always be interested in defense and space. >> that's right. if anything holds true, it will be defense contractors, long-term budget, their ability for to have long term extract money from the government. they're going to have to continue to spend at a certain level, and raytheon is a great place to be to benefit from that. david: and the stock is trading low, time to get in. >> because the market knows obama's going cut our missile defense system to virtually nothing. that's going hurt raytheon. david: what happens if that happens? >> raytheon does a lot of electronic components to some of the aircraft and other vessels in our defense industry, so i think that's a safe place to be, not necessarily the mi

david? >> abc's david kerley from baghdad. as u.s. combat troops pull out of iraq cities this week, in afghanistan, the fighting is intensifying. two u.s. troops died today when taliban militants fired rockets on a base in eastern afghanistan. mike boettcher is in afghanistan tonight. >> reporter: across e line of marine advance in south afghanistan, there were fireworks, the kind that can kill you. despite the chlenges, gulf company, kept a steady advance through taliban strongholds in the southern part of the country. their plan is to gain a strong foothold in a small village, until today, the taliban roamed freely. first however, the road in had to be cleared of mines and ieds. one brave marine pulled out the metal detector and went to work. >> when you enlisted you didn't ask for this, did you? >> no. >> reporter: most residents stayed hidden in their homes. the few who ventured out claimed they hafn't seen the taliban. many troops have been here many times for in helmand province. they said this time it's different. this time, they're staying. when the troops carrying out operation liberty were briefed, their commanding general made it clear heants marines engaged with afghans. >> if you're not eating a lot of goat, you're not doing what i want you to do. get out there, wade into the people, get to know the people. because they're the reason we're here. >> reporter: they're staying in this taliban stronghold, which means more clashes and a long war ahead. mike boettcher, for abc news. >>> meantime, north korea today sent a message of defiance to the u.s. on this fourth of july, firing seven short-range missiles into the sea. a violation of u.n. resolutions. the u.s. did not take the bait. the state department issued a statement calling northi ya's not careful. >>> we're following a story back here. steve mcnair has been shot and killed in an apparent double homicide. he led the tennessee titans to the super bowl in 2000. he retired from the baltimore rans last ye >>> increasing fear in south carolina as a teen girl became the fifth victim of a suspecteder suspected er serial killer. all shootings have occurred within 10 miles of each other. >>> we're learning more as well tonight, for plans of michael jackson's memorial service on tuesday. thousands of fans are expected to descend on los angeles. but, who's paying for it all? here's brian rooney. >> reporter: fans are coming to los angeles from all over the world. taking pictures outside the mansion where jackson died. tour buses passing, moonwalking outside the family home. >> i have been to his star, his home in holmby hills. >> reporter: in the last day and a half, people have registered online for 17,500 free tickets to the memorial. we punched in just one more name. so your registration for your chance to become the michael jackson public memorial service has been received. if you're successful, you'll receive an e-mail tomorrow sunday after 11:00 pacific. we'll see. >> reporter: the memorial will be held in the same arena where he was rehearsing for his big comeback, just two days before he died. no performers or details have been announced. only ticket holders will by allowed close to the staples center. 2500 law enforcement officers at a cost of $2.5 million. this while as los angeles is running $500 million deficit. >> we were giving pink slips out. we're in a major financial crunch. >> reporter: he's expected to be on monday in forest lawn ceremony among somof the biggest names in entertainment, lucille ball, betty davis, gene autry, just to name a few. but michael jackson is likely to be the big draw for years to come. brian rooney, abnews, los angeles. >>> and abc news will have live coverage with charlie gibson of the michael jackson memorial serve starting at 1:00 p.m. eastern. >>> since his death, the king of the pop has been the king of the pop charts. in fact, in an industry seeing a steep decle in cds, it's been a huge challenge to keep up with this renewed demand. here's eric horng. >> reporter: at reckless records in chicago, the king of pop is selling like one. everything with michael's name on it, gone. in this age of declining interest in albums, sales of jackson cds have increased a staggering 4,000%. amazon's top ten music sellers, are all jackson. and he's the first performer to sell over 1 million internet tracks in a week. >> definitely now after his death, i'm going to start collecting. >> reporter: jackson's record lal, sony, has been scrambling to meet demand. its new jersey plant churning out cds, even on this holiday. >> right now, it's pretty crazy. it's back up to overtime. they are calling everybody in. >> reporter: for an artist whose work has often been overshadowed by a dubious personal life. this surge in popularity, and profits, is perhaps the ultimate vindication. >> this is really the opportunity finally for people to remember what it was they loved about him. >> reporter: and retailers expect the trend to continue, perhaps for months, as details about jackson's death slowly comes to light. a long, final encore, for an artist whose music remains a thriller. eric horng, abc news, chicago. >>> and on this fourth of july, preparations for fireworks tonight turned deadly in one north carolina community. one worker was killed and four others were injured on an island on the outer banks. >>> still ahead as we continue on "world news" this saturday -- marking this holiday without the fireworks. cash-strapped towns forced to forego the fourth. >>> he beat cancer too, what does lance armstrong still have to prove? 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first and foremost, i'm not going to speak for david, and david, you know, david will speak and say whatsay. >> [inaudible] >> we're now joined by espn baseball insider tim kurkjian. tim, this is not our first rodeo, a big-name player being directly linked to prurks but it is david ortiz and manny ramirez. what was your initial reaction? >> well, unfortunately, i'm way beyond the point of ever being surprised anymore, which doesn't mean that everyone during this era is dirty or anything like that. there are a lot of innocent guys who have played during this era, but when a big name comes up like david ortiz now, i can't be shocked anymore because so many big names have come up. now, with him it's a little different because he is so revered in boston. he is so beloved in boston. and this is going to be a tricky situation there. and partly because he has spoken out so vociferously to this point about, well, here's what i would do if you test positive. if you notice with all the comments he's made, he's basically said, and that means anyone who tested positive after 2004 when we had a testi

david and david. look at all those boxes, try to talk one at a time. davidart us off on the bullish side of things. >> in terms of opportunities, this is one of the most extraordinary periods we've seen in a long time about opportunities out there. look at the sector level. the more cyclical areas gotten beaten down are very interesting at this point. if you look inside small versus large and growth versus value, you have major dislocations when correlations go to one. when we look what's happening with earnings and how recovery plays out, understanding how we got into this recession will dictate coming out. >> mike, tell us why david is wrong on that. >> there's no spending, economy is in a shambles. everybody is optimistic that it will be more robust than it will be. the real test of earnings will be people buying goods and services and spending money. >> earnings because of cost cuts, earnings have been pretty good so far, lee munson, where do you fall in. >> i think you can trade gold. i also disagree, i don't think gold and the dollar are negatively cor

david kilcullen. david is a former army officer who helped plan the troops in both iraq and afghanistan. he is a profess this man is a professor of boston university. they are in opposition on this. >> when the surge began in iraq, they said the directive of the surge would be to raise casualties because the u.s. forces would be actively engaging the enemy in ways they had not done so far. is that what's happening in afghanistan? >> i think we're inevitably going to see some increase in casualties in the next few months, but i do think casualties aren't necessarily a particularly good indicator of whether you're winning or losing. casualties, both to the civilian population and to coalition forces, tend to be very low in two kind of places, places that are completely controlled by the government and places that are completely controlled by the enemy. so the absence of casualties doesn't necessarily mean you're doing well or doing badly. and the presence of casualties that we're finding in some areas just tells you fighting is going on. it doesn't really indicate whether we're seeing progress on the ground. just to pick up something you said in the introduction, i think, in fact, the most important partner for the united states in afghanistan is actually not the british people but the afghan people. and i think that has to be the focus of what we're doing here in the next fighting season. if we don't really rebuild that partnership with afghans that we once had, then i don't think any amount of troop surge or any amount of actual fighting is going to get us there. >> andy, what do you make of these casualty numbers, because, again, it's worth pointing out in iraq they speck quite substantially and then dropped down as we started winning those engagements and, more importantly, providing security for the population so that it felt more secure. is that a wise strategy in afghanistan? >> the big question, it seems to me, is not whether casualties are up or down or why they're up or down. the big question has to do with what are u.s. interests in afghanistan? the assumption seems to be afghanistan constitutes a vital security interest of the united states, and therefore, we should be investing tens of thousands of soldiers and many billions of dollars to try to remake it. i question that assumption. frankly, i think afghanistan is of marginal interest to the united states. >> well, let me press you on that, andy. if the united states withdraws, britain withdraws, by every account the afghan government is pretty weak. there is a very good chance that it will either fall or large parts of the country will be taken over by the taliban which has, in the past, and is now closely allied with elements of al qaeda and al qaeda-like groups. so you will have a country that has -- allows al qaeda and its people to operate, train, have bases and potentially do terrorist activities from london to madrid, and, of course, the biggest target they often talk about, which is the united states. why is that not a threat? >> well, it is a threat, but it's a modest threat. with regard to what becomes of afghanistan and whether afghanistan does become some hotbed of islamist activity that gets ex porported to the region seems to me we should at least examine the possibility that would prevent ways of that happening that doesn't require us maintaining tens of thousands of troops there in perpetuity. there i think the limited success achieved by the surge in iraq is destructive. to the extent the surge did succeed, it did because the united states paid off the heart of the insurgency. it seems by analogy, we can explore the possibility of paying afghan war lords to rule their little patch of afghanistan in ways that prevent al qaeda from taking up positions there. >> davidy is that not a good idea? i know you were in favor of it in iraq, i know you've talked about it in afghanistan. it does seem to me that that key element of the surge doesn't seem to be happening. we don't seem to be reaching out and trying to find members of the taliban, members associated, maybe they don't call themselves the taliban, and affecting some kind of switching of sides. >> well, i think there were two very distinct specific circumstances about the situation in 2007 in iraq, which are not necessarily present in afghanistan. the first one was the sunni awakening was happening in the sunni community with different activist groups turning away from iraq and trying to push them out of their communities. when we were there in 2007, that was the fifth attempt by the tribes to throw al qaeda off their backs. we participated by helping an existing movement that was already starting to reject al qaeda. i don't see a similar large-scale turn by tribes or war lords or anybody else to

david souter pauses and says 5 things, for investing the of the numbers friend with the privilege of serving with justice david souter. from my experience, there has not been a more incisive question than justice david souter. i remember when i was prepping one of the arguments, one of the things we really wanted to do was get the court to have a line of questioning about stripping eightieth corpus and whether it was -- we spent weeks trying to figure out, we bracing king about this line of questions. we didn't get just this stevens to do it. in the dna argument which i did in march there was a lot of questioning of is worried about getting, and sure enough, justice david souter was the one to lodge that folly of questions. his opinion on the dna case was a really moving opinion. event code to conservatism. it is about substantive due process and the need to go slow. that is not something we have traditionally seen a lot of in the supreme court for right and left of the court, justice david souter is staking that position in that case. it will be one of his great legacy for the court. >> i will miss justice david souter so much from arguing in front of him. it was incredibly incisive in his question

. >> good morning, david. david, we are so honored to be with this crowd today.u, kelly clarkson has the most amazing fans in the world. and good morning, america. you may be dry, wherever you are. this crowd is soaking wet from the rain that has been here. now, the rain pulls away. this may be the last bit here. let's tell you what to expect as you walk out your door this morning. there are some hot spot where's the thunderstorms will deliver big rainfall totals. i want to show you pictures of the thunderstorms around the memphis, tennessee yesterday. look at this video, where the sparks are coming off the power lines as they come down. this is the kind of storm you're going to see in the northern plains today, and also in the mid-atlantic. later this afternoon, when the strong storms fire up, you need to get in and get out of the way. that's anywhere from new york all the way to washington, d.c. later this afternoon. i wouldn't be surprised if providence lights up with stms, as well. the rainfall totals will be greater than two inches from those storms today. i

crisco in personally a in our portfoos. >> paul: tha you for sharing your insights, david. >> thank you, pau paul: my guest david jarrity of dva research. >> suzanne: tomorrowford c.e.o. alan laly joins us with an update on the automaker's turnaround. >> suzan: it appears bailed out insurer aig learned a sson from its bon scandal. the firmithheld $2.5 million in bonuses to its senior managers last week aig reviewing bonus payments with washington's compention czar. march, aig sparked national outrage wh it paid $165 miion in retention bonuses. after taking $200 biion in governmentid. >> paul:hrysler is looking to clear its owrooms of 2009 models by doubling t government "cash for clunkers" incentive. the aumaker will offer up to $4500 in cash or zo percent nancing for six years to consumers who trade in theiras guzzlers for new vehicles. that's in addition to a fedel voucher worth up to $40 towards a fuelfficient car. "ch for clunkers" and the chrysler inntives start tomoow. >> suzanne: here's a lk at what's happeng tomorrow: in themoney file" tonight some sneaky credicard practices to watch out for. here'sarrie

david kilcullen. david is a former army officer who helped the u.s. plan the troops in both iraq and afghanistan. andrew besovich is a professor of boston university. they are in opposition on this. is this uptick in violence good news, by which i mean when the surge began in iraq, general petraeus warned that the initial effect of the surge would be to actually raise troop casualties because the united states forces would be actively engaging the enemy in ways they had not done so far. is that what's happening in afghanistan? >> i think we're inevitably going to see some increase in casualties in the next few months, but i do think casualties aren't necessarily a particularly good indicator of whether you're winning or losing. casualties, both to the civilian population and to coalition forces, tend to be very low in two kinds of places, places that are completely controlled by the government and places that are completely controlled by the enemy. so, the absence of casualties doesn't necessarily mean you're doing well or doing badly. and the presence of casualties that we're finding in some areas just tells you that fighting is going on. it doesn't really indicate whether we're seeing progress on the ground. just to pick up something that you said in the introduction though, i think, in fact, the most important partner for the united states in afghanistan is actually not the british people but the afghan people. and i think that has to be the focus of what we're doing here in the next fighting season. if we don't really rebuild that partnership with afghans that we once had, then i don't think any amount of troop surge or any amount of actual fighting is going to get us there. >> andy, what do you make of these casualty numbers, because, again, it's worth pointing out in iraq they spiked quite substantially and then dropped down as we started winning those engagements and, more importantly, providing security for the population so that it felt more secure. why is that -- is that a wise strategy in afghanistan? >> the big question, it seems to me, is not whether casualties are up or down or why they're up or down. the big question has to do with what are u.s. interests in afghanistan? the assumption seems to be afghanistan constitutes a vital security interest of the united states, and therefore, we should be investing tens of thousands of soldiers and many billions of dollars to try to remake it. i question that assumption. frankly, i think afghanistan is of marginal interest to the united states. >> well, let me press you on that, andy. if the united states withdraws, britain withdraws, by every account, the afghan government is pretty weak. there is a very good chance that it will either fall or large parts of the country will be taken over by the taliban, which has in the past and is now closely allied with elements of al qaeda and al qaeda-like groups. so, you will have a country that has -- allows al qaeda and its ilk to operate, to train, to have bases and potentially do terrorist activities everywhere from london to mumbai to madrid, and, of course, the biggest target they often talk about, which is the united states. why is that not a threat? >> well, it is a threat, but it's a modest threat. with regard to what becomes of afghanistan and whether afghanistan does become some hotbed of islamist activity that gets exported to the region, it seems to me that we should at least examine the possibility that are ways to prevent that from happening that doesn't require us maintaining tens of thousands of troops there in perpetuity. there i think the limited success achieved by the surge in iraq is instructive. to the extent the surge did succeed, it did so in large part because the united states paid off the heart of the insurgency. it seems to me by analogy, we can explore the possibility of paying afghan warlords to rule their little patch of afghanistan in ways that prevent al qaeda from taking up positions there. >> david, why is that not a good idea? i know that you were in favor of it in iraq. i know you've talked about it in afghanistan. it does seem to me that that key element of the surge doesn't seem to be happening. we don't seem to be reaching out and trying to find members of the taliban, members associated, maybe they don't call themselves the taliban, and affecting some kind of switching of sides. >> well, i think there were two very distinct specific circumstances about the situation in 2007 in iraq, which are not necessarily present in afghanistan. the first one was the sunni awakening was happening within the sunni community with the sunni community with a number of different tribal groups turning away from iraq and trying to push them out of their communities. when we were there in 2007, that was the fifth attempt by the tribes to throw al qaeda off their backs. and we participated by helping an existing movement that was already starting to reject al qaeda. i don't see a similar large-s

david kohn and david welles through perfect games when they were both with the new york yankees.great game to watch yesterday. two hours and three minutes and gone. that soccer game will be longer than that. >> you think so? >> yeah. >> 70,000 people are expected for that. >>> we're going on a kitchen stop tour. >> it's not even open yet, but we know one swanky spot in the b & o building. it will be a dine on a dime. >>> do you have binoculars? >> here you go. >> we'll be taking a look at the manatee. look at the crowd already forming for the soccer game tonight. >> 70,000 people. >>> meantime, mta's mark jones is keeping an eye on the trains and buses. how are things moving along right now, mark? >> reporter: good morning. the commute start looks good out there on the light rail and metro system. you'll find penn train operating with a delay. look for the number 9 to be diverted due to police activity. the 77 taking a diverse at edmondson and ingle side. you'll find the number 17 working with the diversion in the area of nursery and winterston due to construction. for the mta tr

david shuster. david, we're listening to the president say, you know, many critics call this the obama economy or the obama problem, but he again reminded the audience in michigan hit very hard by this recession and unemployment numbers that this is something he inherited. >> that's right and the constant refrain of the white house trying to say they inherited such a big mess. the president trying to go on the offense as we heard saying these bankruptcies with general motors, they happened a lot faster. they are out of bankruptcy. there's progress that's been made. the president trying to hit back a little bit against those who are the naysayers of some of his policies. as we watch president obama, we'll keep track of that for any news. we are also keeping track of the sotomayor confirmation hearings. chuck schumer, we will pick up with his questioning on the other side of this break. you're watching msnbc. wellbeing. we're all striving for it. purina cat chow helps you nurture it in your cat with a full family of excellent nutrition and helpful resources. purina cat chow. share a better life. car insurance company in the nation. but, it's not like we're kicking back, now, havin' a cuppa tea. gecko vo: takes lots of sweat to become that big. gecko vo: 'course, geckos don't literally sweat... it's just not our thing... gecko vo: ...but i do work hard, mind you. gecko vo: first rule of "hard work equals success." gecko vo: that's why geico is consistently rated excellent or better in terms of financial strength. gecko vo: second rule: "don't steal a coworker's egg salad, 'specially if it's marked "the gecko." come on people. ♪ so blessed with inspiration ♪ ♪ i don't know much ♪ but i know i love you ♪ and that may be ♪ all i need ♪ to know (announcer) customers love ge aircraft engines almost as much as we love making them. innovation today for america's tomorrow. >>> waterboarding back >> welcome back. i'm tamron hall in new york. >> i'm davide continuing to follow the sonia sotomayor confirmation hearings. we're watching senator chuck schumer talking about that issue of empathy, something that has come up repeatedly in this hearing. >> it certainly has. that and the line of questions we just saw from senator kyl regarding racial bias or gender bias. let's listen in to the confirmation hearing as it has resumed. >> and many of them were poor

david brooks,the afementioned david brooks, also hasaid in a very interesting comn that this administration isifferent from ny, including the one you served i because it's letting congress wte everything. it sort of almost delegate .... i stued that, yea >> rose: that true? d is it good? actually, i thinkhe administration isshrewd. they studied carefully someof eistakes that were made historically, iluding by the clinton administrati. >> rose: you mn health care or.... >> even more oadly than that. and i think they... you watch on health care, i think here's wh's happening. initially the opposite of president clinton, they set up a senate... nt up to the hil a set of prinples. very broad principles and ey ha allowed the congress to work on trying to turn those principles into precise programmatic direcons and figure out ways to pay for i anso forth. but we'reetting towards crunch me. and i think administratn will be centrally invold inhaping the final bill. i could be wro. but i think tt's how they'll dot. i don't think that david... i think david suggested that ty are just saying"look, pass whater you can pass, that's great." no, i don't tnk that's...t's that way. think people like ra emanuel and so forth are veryastute out this. >> ros part of the reaso i think they're doing it is because rahm emanuel... you've got the presidenwas a senat, the ce president was a senator,he chief of staff was a leading mber of congrs and you've got others, you know, who have the understanding of congress >> my undetanding is that the degree of teraction between the ngress and the white house is at an all-timeigh. >> rose: really? >> yeah. just for the reason you just mentioned. at the people in senior levels of the administration wh come raight from the hill, know h to dohis. >> re: they're wing like his deputy chi of staff d those jobs wdon't know about. >> that'sight. >> rose: pete petern was here at this table last week an he talked to us, as he has for a long time, abou coming t coming burden of entitlements. he ao talked

david, it's been a long wait. david: a huge wait. it's nice to see someone on the fairway. on 17, everyone's been in the jungle on the left. this for seven. oh, dear. that's a triple bogey. snowman. goes from ninth to just inside the top 20. spent a fortune on number 17. actually, i believe he's gone from inside the top 10 to tied for 23rd. that's just painful. brandt snedeker. you know, with a terrific second shot here and a chance for eagle, that would put him at 18 under par. it's going to be left. yeah. and that will be no basket of fruit from there either, that bunker shot. ian: he ate a basket of fruit while he was waiting to play, i think. david: yeah, probably. wow. bill: well, as we come down the stretch, let's have ian take a look at the closing holes here at t.p.c. deere run. ian: as they come to the final two holes, anything can happen here. you've got a reachable par 5, rip it down the center of the fairway here, 290, 300 just around the corner. the long hitters can get there in two. for those that drive it in the rough or have tree troubling you must avoid these two bunkers short of the green. you have to be going in here from the short grass. you must control your spin on this green because there's steep runoffs to the right-hand side here and a lot of spin on the soft greens today. back right hole location. they find their way up the hill here to 18. drive it down there to an elevated tee, around 290 to 300, just short of that bunker. avoid the big trees on the right-hand side, because if you need birdie here to win, you must be to the left side of the fairway here firing into this back left hole location. the water

arlington county police seder der ya police chief david -- say alexandria police chief david baker crashed his car into another car at the entrance ramp of 66 at north fairfax drive. chief baker blew a .19, that is more than twice the legal limit. today city officials in alexandria announced chief baker has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an internal investigation. >> i'm not prepared to say that right now. i think we are looking at all the facts of this case. obviously this is a very serious situation. i think the chief and i will be having more discussions today and over the next couple of days. >> the other driver in the crash was taken to the hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. chief baker has since been released on his own recognizance. >>> sarah palin no longer governor. we're everywhere at 11:00 tonight. just a few hours ago palin stepped aside as governor charting a new course for alaska and her own life. she told a crowd of supporters she'll always fight for the state, even though she's no longer in office. no mention on what's next, though. the

barry was making decisions on how to spend earmark funds, a revelation at large city council david came -- david catania found disturbing. >> it does cast a cloud over these -- these funds. >> reporter: but an attorney representing brenda richardson says at worse it's a poor choice of words. >> easy to understand that miss richardson's comments while poor choice of words meant that that was mr. barry's feeling in regard to her poor performance, that of miss wise, but that doesn't mean he was controlling the dollars. >> reporter: he says his client was involved in no wrongdoing and the inspector general's investigation will ultimately clear her name. barry said he's done nothing wrong and he complained about the reporting say -- recording saying it should never have been made. >> i know nobody in the meeting con-- [ inaudible ] miss wise awed to be prosecuted for doing something illegal rveghts simple -- illegal, simple as that disblrks council sources say the tape was made -- [ inaudible ] not because it was illegal. because it raised questions about perception. the framework of the council gran

david rudovsky with us. david practices law with his good friend, david cary and paul messing, among others, both always allovers, david carey is a distinguished member of temple paw school, and paul messing has been a teacher of trial advocacy at both rutgers and temple for men -- many years. it shows that professors can be in the real world as well. i'm embarrassed to be around david rue rudovsky he has a publication record that puts most professors to shame. he has published a number of articles in the university of pennsylvania law review, the university of illinois law review, and i first got to know his scholarship when he wrote a chapter in a very famous anthology on critical local studies called "the politics of law." and for the students, if you want to get a good introduction you, i recommend you to look at that book. today we're going to be discussing "we dissent," which michael edited and has a chapter in it, as does david. we're going to discuss judicial selection under the new administration, which we would be starting with the supreme court sooner than we would like, but certainly is on our minds.

david. >> i'm david shuster, live in washington. we've got some intriguing news that's breaking in honduras. just moments ago ousted president manuela marched up to the border office. watching an exiled leader march back in is always intriguing. zelaya has returned to a waiting crowd and is continuing to attempt to negotiate by cell phone. it is the second time he's tried to return since being forced out in a coup on june 28th. the last time he was turned back by the military the de facto honduran government has accused him of a long list of crimes. we'll continue to update this on this bizarre and intriguing situation. >>> the closing bell on wall street where stocks continued their big gains from yesterday. you will recall it was just yesterday the dow finished above 9000. that the first time since january, and right now the dow is sitting at 9093, up 24. so another big day there. >>> tamron, the big picture this hour, president obama spoke out this afternoon about the arrest of harvard scholar henry louis gates, jr. in an impromptu aperp rans at the white hou -- appearance at the white house press briefing. mr. obama called crowley an outstanding officer. he commented on his earlier remarks referring to the came rid -- cambridge police department's actions as stupid. >> to the extent that my choice of words contributed to more media frenzy, i think that's unfortunate. there are some who say as president i shouldn't have stepped into this at all because it's a local issue, i have to tell you that that part of it i disagree with. the fact that this has become such a big issue i think is indicative of the fact that, you know, race is still a troubling aspect of our society. >> nbc's mike taibbi joins us live from cambridge, massachusetts, and how are the president's remarks going over in cambridge? what's been the reaction? >> reporter: well, the president is right in this respect, it certainly is the topic of conversation in the newspapers and the talk shows and wbur. i was listening to a while back. passions really ignited about this. we're waiting right now for another comment by police commissioner paul hsass of the cambridge police department. the president's remarks today seemed to be an attempt to lower the temperature. of course sergeant krcrowley's colleagues standing up for him, including one african-american cop who was on the scene. basically the president lowering the temperature and saying both men, professor gates and sergeant crowley shared responsibility for turning a tense situation toxic. >> i continue to believe based on what i have heard that there was an overreaction in pulling professor gates out of his home to the station. i also continue to believe based on what i heard that professor gates probably overreacted as well. >> nothing new from professor gates today. the president did say let's make this a teachable moment and he said maybe we should have the two of them to the white house where they can have a beer. also a lot of talk about finding another way through conflict resolution to get the two to shake hands because they both have terrific reputations. one a world famous terrific reputation and the other, sergeant crowley, a reputation people are just learning about right now. >> mike taibbi reporting live from cambridge. thanks for the report. >>> to the bigger picture, how professor gates' arrest has ignited a national debate. melissa and dr. watkins, a resident scholar at aol black voices and clint van zandt a profiler and the author of "facing down evil." he's also an msnbc analyst. melissa, i would like to start off with you. the president said something today about a teachable moment. at this point have we learned anything, the media and the viewers at home, from this? >> well, i'm not sure. i actually think this is a painfully familiar narrative that is emerging. in other words, we have here a situation where law enforcement, in other words a representative of the state, someone who is armed and in an official position does something to a citizen and then somehow the story becomes as though they are both equal, that gates was doing something bad to the police officer and the police officer bad to gates, but i think we have to keep ourselves carefully focused on the fact that the police officer, sergeant crowley, was a man who was at work, whose responsibility it was to defuse the situation, whereas professor gates was in his home. so although i think it's great that we are using this as a way to talk about race, at this point i haven't seen anything different because the narrative is still emerging as though it's all just equal. >> dr. watkins, you had an article on grio and you said, quote, i might be clicked out of the black scholars club for saying this, but the truth is i don't feel sorry for henry louis gates. why those comments? >> well, the first thing i'll say is that i respect and support professor gates in the work that he does, but when i saw the situation, one of the things i didn't do was i didn't want to rush to judgment. i didn't want to assume this officer misbehaved or he misbehaved due to race. i needed to see the evidence, and so my feeling was that when you talk about this situation, i didn't see this as much of a race issue as a class issue, and i think that that was accentuated by the fact that president obama stepped in, and i don't think he would have stepped in if he weren't referring to a buddy from harvard, and this is white or black. i think that what happened though and what made the situation worse was that when these words came from our president, whom i respect tremendously, that really put that pressure on this police department and so they come out with sticks out and they're defending themselves. on the gates' side you have them defensive as well. it becomes he said/she said. there was a misunderstanding between two people who are proud men. i think we need to look at the facts and move forward. >> clint, professor harris brought up whether these people are equals. the officer was on the job. what's your comments to what the professor brought to the conversation now? >> well, i think the challenge was the professor's initial conversation with the officer, you're doing this because i'm a black man in america. all that did, unfortunately, was challenge the officer's authority and serve to kind of bait him. then the officer compounded because he took the bait, and the last thing from what i know is that an arrest should have been made. what should have happened even if the professor was ranting and raving, calling the officer and his mother names or something else, once the officer established that the professor belonged there, he should have said, sir, i will search your house if you want me to help in case anybody is here. if not, here is my name, badge number, here is the number of my police department. if you want to make a complaint, call my office. otherwise, have a good day and he should have walked away. i don't think we should have got to the point where they put handcuffs on that man. >> professor harris, we've got this note in, the president has spoken with professor gates. apparently they connected. they had a conversation. he informed professor gates of his conversation with sergeant crowley and the president has invited gates and now sergeant crowley to the white house in the near future. the president said he wanted to elevate this conversation today and kind of be the mediator. how ironic is this, the first african-american president and now we have this issue where he's mediating i guess the conversation black people have probably all the time about the perception of police officers of them and the black opportunity's perception of officers, particularly white officers. >> sure. well, i mean, i also think it's particularly ironic not only that this is a case of our african-american president having this conversation, but that henry louis gates, jr. this professor at harvard who many of us in the black scholars club know as someone who is certainly interested in black issues, but is generally pretty apolitical, the idea that's a flash point around this kind of very traditional racial moment is incredibly ironic. this is a man who, you know, vacations at martha's vinyard and says he feels comfortable in harvard yard and generally lives an exceptionally integrated, element post-racial lifestyle. so it's every bit of this is in fact ironic. >> i wish we had more time. we could talk about this on and on. thank you all. were fesser harris, dr. watkins, and clint van zandt. thank you. this has been a day of events. health care affecting all of us, but so does race and how we interact with one another. >> we tend to forget this kind of situation happens every day in every city of america, these sort of tensions and perceptions that have to be sorted out, and to the extent that all of us and police officers and people who see police can learn from something like this, i think we also benefit. putting aside that, just the pure politics of it all as well. we talk about that so much, the way the white house tries to handle this to tamp down the controversy and make sure the president is on sure political footing so he can get back to health care. >> still ahead, the day's other news, including the latest developments in the death investigation of michael jackson. what investigators are now saying about his personal doctor and could some kind of charges be coming in days? >>> plus, democrats kick the can down the road on health care, a the least to a couple months. when will we finally see a plan and a vote? >>> and then there's this -- >> that's all you got to do is to lie a few marshmallows out and then put a marshmallow or two in the trap cage, and you will catch those suckers. well, that's what washington is doing to the american's liberty. >> huh? we'll explain what that senator was talking about on the floor of the united states senate. this is msnbc, the place for politics. but did you know you also get hotel price assurance? it's a one-two punch of savings -- pow! pow! lower hotel booking fees mean you get a lower total price. plus, if another orbitz customer then books the same hotel for less, we send you a check for the difference, automatically. a day on the days that you have arthritis pain, you could end up taking 4 times the number... of pills compared to aleve. choose aleve and you could start taking fewer pills. just 2 aleve have the strength... to relieve arthris pain all day. >>> welcome back. new details today in the michael jackson death investigation. >> david, the doctor who reportedly tried to revive the pop star on the day he died is now the main target of manslaughter probe. dr. conrad murray has not been arrested, but investigators have searched his office in houston, texas, and police are still waiting for results from the coroner's office. joining us with more, courtney hazlett from msnbc.com's the scoop. courtney, a lot of reports swirling that maybe we are days away from someone being charged here. >> i think what's more accurate is we're probably days way way from getting the cause of death and the toxicology report and things like that. the charge, if there is one, will certainly follow from that. they're not going to charge anybody, i don't think, until they definitely know why he died. that's really clutch in this situation. one of the interesting things i'd like to point out is what they took from this seizure that took place yesterday in houston. a lot of things you'd expect, but what was surprising was this vi vial. if you r

david gary? david garrity is gba research principal, and we're talking about google and ibm here. google with a revenue number of $4.07 billion on earnings of 5.36, that looks like a good number. >> it is a good number. as we went through the course of the second quarter you saw that search query volumes were growing very strongly but the main question was how well was pricing on keywords holding up. we've seen a 14% decline year over year. in the first quarter we don't have the numbers yet in terms of the details but it certainly looks promising with respect to the second quarter. what's more important to look at going forward is we start to see signs from advertising agencies that search ad budgets for the second half of the year are going to be opening up. and what the company was able to do on the bottom line in terms of margin improvement, 5.36 versus the expectations, shows that they're actually doing a very good job of converting. >> the most important question here for some investors is what do you do with the stock? we're talking about a stock that's come all the way down from 750, close to $800 a share. would you put your money to work in google today in this advertising environment because of these numbers? >> from the standpoint that you're going to be seeing nice leverage to the up side if you get keyword pricing improvement in the back half of the year, it's obviously a good stock to own. they're going to have nice up side leverage coming for google. we think $500 between now and the end of the year. >> now, the stock here is at 437 and change. and it closed in new york at 442. so you actually are still seeing a negative reaction. even though on the face of it these numbers are better than expected. >> before the conference call you're going to have a two-step with the stock -- >> it's going to be a noisy situation. let's switch gears to ibm. we'll get to jim in a minute. the estimate was 2 -- we got earnings of 2.32 a share. revenue estimate 23.59 in revenue. $23.5 billion. got the actual revenue of $2.25 billion. very close. >> what's going to be important for ibm is what the numbers are in terms of long-term contract signings. the street's looking for stability in their services business to support the stock. a number of about $12 billion or better. one thing about ibm and going back to what they said before the close is that ibm right now is at its lowest discount relative to the s&p 500 in the last ten years. when it's gotten to more than a 20% discount you usually have 25% outperformance by ibm versus the market over the next six months. ibm's set up to be a leader in terms of a tech rally in the back half of the year. >> i want to ask you about putting money to work. but let me get to jim goldman. he's got more details. jim. >> we'll be a lot more solid on ibm shares in ibm's report than we just were on google. again, apologies to that company and the company's shareholders for the addition error. but nonetheless, ibm's numbers are absolutely blockbuster. that $2.32 that you're reporting there as far as eps versus the 2.02 that the company anticipated as far as wall street is concerned, that is a 30% beat, and that is the biggest beat eps-wise, in the company's history. this is really just a stunning report on basically an in-line number as far as revenue is concerned.d. global technology services 9.1 billion against the $8.89 billion some on the street were anticipating. global business services a little lighter than expects, 4.3 versus the 4.45 billion. but look at this gross profit margin. 45.5%. the street was at 44.2%. and really raising this full-year guidance here. we are seeing ibm shares off to the races. $9.20 was what the company reiterated just last quarter, raising it to $9.70.0. the company also closed 17 services deals on the quarter over $100 million.n. if there was some concern that the i.t. and enterprise spending was continuing to slow down, well heroi well, here's one company that is certainly not feeling it. and if there was one company that's certainly not feeling and is important, it would be ibm. this is very good news. >> looking at ibm trade higher, are you going to be putting new money to work in ibm? do you want to own this stock after these numbers? >> i think ibm's looking very strong and certainly has the leverage as well as their hardware business comes back.. but going back to what we were talking about earlier, we think that google's also very well set up. there is one ris wk google which is you're starting to see display advertising become less expensive than search advertising, more effectively targeted. there's instances of retailers like skechers doing campaigns with companies like interclick where they're getting a very high return on ad spend. you may not see a complete rebound in search ad spend in the second half because of greater competition from display. but we'll get better information on that when we get yahoo next week. >> and display business they bought doubleclick for that.. but they're still wait informing really derive significant revenue from that part of the business. 95% of the business coming from search. >> google's built on one thing, spaech obviously it will expand over time but it just hasn't happened yet. >> david, great to have you on the program on such an important night for earnings. we appreciate your insights. coming up, we'll see how the numbers could impact tomorrow's trading session. setting the tone. we should tell you that ibm obviously a dow component, google an important member of the nasdaq and s&p 500. this may very well set the tone for tomorrow. later on getting to the root of the financial crisis. i'll be talking with the head of a new commission charged with solving that very issue. he's former california treasurer phil angelides. he has some thoughts on california's crisis as well. he'll be my special guest this hour. back on "closing bell." come here. yeah, good boy. here's your treat. ♪ ( neighing, whimper ) ♪ show off. ( neighs ) ♪ >>> welcome back. we want to recap these numbers on google. the stock is now at 429.65. the company reported earnings of $5.36 a share for the second quarter. the revenue coming in at $4.07 billion for the quarter. and that is actually fraction

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david gergen. let's start with you, david. our new cnn opinion research corporation poll numbers shows a disturbing trend for the president right now. we asked is he a strong leader. back in february, 80% said yes. now, 70%. is he tough enough? 73% in february, now, 64%. does he have a clear plan, 64% back in february, only 53% now. not necessarily good numbers for the president. >> they are not. i think we are seeing that the honeymoon factor is starting to wear off. he had a long and intense honeymoon. he is starting to look like other presidents. it is still important to note that regarding as a strong leader, he is still 13 points ahead of where george w. bush is and asked whether he inspires confidence, he is still about 17 points ahead of where george w. bush was. it is an enormous agenda in the white house. these numbers could be threatening in the fall when really tough decisions have to be made. if you see steady erosion over the next few weeks lead into the big fall decisions, it could make tay lit a lot tougher to gs initiatives. >> american people love him individually. as a person, 79% approve of the president of the united states. that's capital he needs to use if he wants health care reform and enjergy reform to go throug. >> he offered the american public a deal. you accept more debt. i'll deliver more jobs. the debt is coming on a cataclysmic scale. the jobs are not showing up. there is a little bit of good jobs, a slowdown in the rate of loss of jobs. this is a very tough economy. the debt is a fact in the president's recovery plans are all theory. >> if he goes up in unemployment 10%, some states like california and michigan, it is already well beyond 10%, people are going to say, you know, what happened? it was supposed to go in the other direction. >> i mean, i think there is a real sense that maybe he didn't break this economy but he certainly bought it. the price tag was essentially $778 billion. what people are looking for is jobs. so far, he has created 150,000 jobs. i think the promise was by now $160,000. people are looking in their neighborhoods and seeing their friends and family without jobs and looking for some trickle-down effect from this $787 billion stimulus plan. in fairness to the president, i must say that he said he was going to save or create. there air lot of state jobs, state government jobs in california and elsewhere which the losses would have been far more dramatic had it not been for the stimulus. the truth also is that the stimulus money has gone out too slowly. i think david makes an important point here. they need a strong person in there, a jack wells type person to oversee this stimulus spending and get the first stimulus spending right and make it fast and effective before they start putting a second stimulus on the table. >> a disturbing comment made by jim demint. i'll read it to you, david and tell me what you think if it's a good analogy. we are about where germany was before world war ii where they became a social democracy. you still had votes but the votes were just power grabs like you see in iran and other places in south america. people become more dependant on the government so that they are easy to manipulate. is that a fair analogy? >> i have been very concerned. the beginning of the week, last year, gallup had a poll that offered the promise of good news to republicans. it showed that the country seemed to be becoming more conservative. when you asked people, were you becoming more conservative, they said yes. when you broke it apart, yo

david axelrod to put aside he has adviser hat for this question and be david axelrod the campaign strategist. this is is sarah palin's last day as alaskan governor. is is she done? will we see her again? when you're sitting around with your political friends not worrying about health care reform, when you take that little break each week, is sarah pal palin someone that david axelrod says keep an eye on her? or is she done? >> i can tell you with absolute honesty that when i sit around with my political friends, particularly friends who are involved with me in my current pursuits, there's very little or no discussion of sarah palin. we're talking about the problems we're dealing with right now facing the country. and so on. and i really have no idea what governor palin is going to do. she's entering private life now. we wish her well and it's up to her to decide what role she's going to play in the future. she's got plenty of advice, i'm sure, she doesn't need mine. >> a diplomatic answer from the president's right-hand man. thank you very much. >> good to be with you, john. >> and when we come, democrats splintering over health care reform, how does the house speaker plan to get her own party back in line? our exclusive interview with nancy pelosi next. unceit keeps . to help mehe betr d it'not a st announ keeps my rws open.to helr all day long. and it's

david iglesias. >> david iglesias. was he wasn't doing the bidding of republicans in new mexico who wanted him to go after what they considered to be democratic voter fraud. so they got rid of him, supposedly get somebody in who would do political prosecutions. now, as far as i understand the law, that's not illegal. now, you may not -- >> it seems to me you would want a prosecutor to prosecute. >> but not trumped up charges. >> no, no. >> but if you do that, it's still unseemly. there's still a reason not to admit it to the public or before, you know, a congressional committee, and so -- but i think mike makes a good point in that karl rove managed not to have to give sworn testimony for over two years. so in that time things also cooled down -- >> lets get back to the legal skulduggery. what he was able to do that skirted the law that avoided being prosecutable. did he or did he not have a buddy who worked for him that he got a job down there as special -- as u.s. attorney? >> tim griffin, yes. >> that's on the record did he that. bump a guy, a u.s. attorney who is doing his job, so he could get a crony a job. >> right. >> and look -- >> that's legal? >> well, yeah. i mean, it was not -- u.s. attorneys are political appointees. they could be replaced at the pleasure of the president for political reasons. they can't be replaced to obstruct an investigation. if the u.s. attorney wants -- if the president wants to have somebody who's a buddy of karl rove be replaced as u.s. attorney, there's no problem why he can't do it. it's been known for quite some time that rove wanted tim griffin in there. the new e-mail his lawyer showed "the new york times" and "washington post" make that case even stronger. the only legal issue here is not obstruction, it's whether somebody made false statements. there was a letter that went out early on that said the department of justice did not know -- was not aware of karl rove playing any role in the replacement of bud cummings by tim griffin. that was false. it was admitted to some time ago. the new evidence makes it even stronger. >> the new evidence also indicates that indeed he was more involved than he has said in the past, which is another -- again, it's not a crime in washington to lie. we know that. if you tell the president of the united states, i'm not involved in this valerie plame leak and then they come out and say to the public and then it turns out you are, which is exactly what happened with karl rove, it's not prosecutable, but again it's wrong. and so karl rove now makes his living as a pundit, a so-called truth teller, his own truth. if it turns out this evidence indicates he's not a guy to be trusted, that should have some impact, too. >> what do we know now. as reporters you have written the best book on it, the role that rove and libby, the chief of staff to the former vice president, all those guys, played in terms of the big role in american history. the tough way in which they prosecuted the war, made the case for the war and then punished those who brought it into question. >> that's the ultimate legacy of the entire bush crowd is the war in iraq and all the mistakes that were made. and misrepresentations -- >> it looks like we're finally going to be pulling out of there pretty soon. >> there's no question that rove was not an architect of the war itself. he was the political guy in the white house. he did play a very key and instrumental role in sort of shaping the spinning of the war and the spinning of the post-war aftermath in which they had to explain -- >> and the exploitation of 9/11. >> right, exactly. >> i mean, that was his big contribution. the exploitation of 9/11 for political purposes and how they used that in part to sell the war in iraq which led to a host -- >> what went wrong politically? why did the bush administration because of the way they led this country lead to the election of barack obama? i do believe these are connected. >> i think you're right. >> i think there was a tremendous national reaction to rovism, to bushism, the whole connection of these guys. >> they wanted the war so badly they rigged the debate. if there had been an honest debate before the war, we don't know exactly what he has but we still think we should do something, however you want to put it, you could win or lose that debate. i think they feared they would lose that debate. by rigging the debate with bad evidence and saying there was no other possible course of action, which was not true either, and then dismissing the inspections and then saying we know this is going to take three weeks, it's going to cost no money. the whole way they rigged it led to a bad taste and showed the politics of karl rove really is not good in the long run. >> and that plus the fact that by 2004 when things really started to go south in iraq, they had to spin that and they had to downplay all the problems that the war was causing, the increased casualties, the mismanagement of occupation, because they had to get re-elected. that was rove's brief in 2004. again, so by downplaying it, the problems festered, became worse, the public didn't realize -- >> you guys are my heroes. you do all the hard work of investigative reporting. thank you michael and davidbook is called "hubris" look for it in the box outside the bookstore. those are great places to buy books, by the way. >>> it's another sarah palin scheduling snafu. you think this is crazy except there's a crazy pattern to this person. she sets up these big events, puts out the word she's going to go somewhere, and doesn't show up. is this what, simon says? what's the story here? she was going to go to the reagan library. we were saying that was her big event. apparently she now says i'm never going to the reagan library or whatever. but the big story is her poll numbers are crashing up there in snow country, up in alaska. "politics fix" coming up. we're going to talk sarah and the birthers. i think they're all connected. >>> coming up, should mainstream republicans such as they exist anymore be worried their party is being hijacked by the crazies, by the birthers, the wacky conspiracy theorists and mostly from the south? and by the way that's a big issue. the republican party seems t

david brooks, david, how has president oba's big public push on health cre done so far? s. >> the publicart, not so great. if they have to rate inside washington they are doing pretty well. they've got allthese committees work the bill and the big story is they are to the ing to pass it this summ. weill have to wait until the fall so that seems lake a big setback. t when you actually look at what the committees are doing, ad the substance the bills there is actlly much more overp that i i would have thought. so i tink, you know they're going toet the blue dog, the centrist. i would suspect witn washington righnow there a very good chance ey will get heth-care reform because of e way the bills are cohering. outside of washingn, the pubc part that is where the nger is. if yolook at where the american pple are, a sim majority now say -- disapprove of obama's approach to heth care. among independent, 66% think it's too b government. so there blic support is erong. among democrats in washington, there is a procession going on. >>ehrer: do you see it the same way, mk? >> not cpletely. i think firstf all, jim, that the president on his own preseation this week did not have a good week. >> lehrer: he didn't, a bunch of television interviews inuding one th us. >> with . >> lehrer: then thenews conference, he has been everywhere. >but the news conferece was the wall to wal. that was the natial, i an people who were wise enough an shrewd enough t watch the newshour saw something else. bu in that presentation, i really thought that all i could think of was add lay stevenson once sai when introducing sqon kenned, whenever scisero spoke people reacted and sa he spoke so well. but when -- spoke, the people sailet us march. and after the weesday presentation, there was nobody that said let us march. it waslistless, overly academic, and at a ti when you really ne to disll and to explain toeople and to inspire and motivate them, and educion -- edute them, think thepresident who was a great professor, according to everybody o sat in his classroom, failed the test on wednesd night. >> lehrer: buwhat about david'si, that it's working inashington but it isn't wrking with the public. >> it isorking -- it is working in waington. washingtonight now is ing through a convulsion. it alway happens just before cngress goes into recess. lehrer: suddenly say oh my goodness. >> this is arisis, if it esn't pass. that has nothg to do with anythin th reality is th worst thing that could hppen is for eitherouse speaker ancy pelosi o senate democratic leader har reid to bring a bill to the floor andave it fail in the votes. the fact that theyidn't bring it to the flo is not ing to be cause for, you know, greatoncern inhe nation. five out of six pele in the country hve health coverage. three out of fouof them, accordingo most polls a pollsters i talk to are satisfied. they're not thrled with it but they a satisfied with it. and that's where the psident and the case have to be made in the country. that lok, this i in the national interest. it is somethin that is biger than me personally. but at the same me i am n

david -- the only reason i wrote the chapter is because david told me, you know, it's based on what he told me. he gave me -- he talked to me about all this. in a very honest and generous way. and i'm very grateful to him for it. so i thought he might have trouble with the book but i had him read it before it came out and, you know, he said, you know, go. go with it. he said he was more interested in having a true story out no matter how complicated than shading anything. and i'm actually quite proud of homework i think that's a very brave stance so he's been supportive. he's telling everybody about the book and, you know, being a brother. [inaudible] >> what did become of your mother and of your other siblings? >> well, here's my sister. julie, what happened? [laughter] [inaudible] >> no, we're fine. i mean, what happened is my mother -- you know, we carried on. my mother was -- did have one piece of property that wasn't on the west side that was in south shore. my father owned a house in south shore, after his death, she was able to sell that one. the west side ones give away nothing

of being a dud, i want to be a stud. >> before we bring david out, one more look at how he used to appear. all right. that was david before. david meet you. >> nice to meet you. come on in. and this is chris powell, the guy who helped make it all happen. david, sit down. you look incredible. >> well, thank you. >> do you feel incredible? >> i sure do. >> new life? >> new life. >> when you look at the video of yourself from that time gone by, what goes through your mind? >> just, you know, it's a different person. it's not me anymore. >> you said you had no job. you had no friends. no girlfriend. you go out only at night because you didn't want people to stare at you. and yet you picked up the phone finally and maded decision to change things. why? had you tried other diets? >> i have. and i realized if i don't act on this and give it my all, it won't happen. >> when you met chris -- chris when you met david, you called the local television station, you were introduced to chris. what made you decide you wanted to help him? >> i couldn't stop thinking about it. it actually took me about a week before i even contacted him back beca