david dewhurst, we don't know.uz yesterday during that protest, you saw he's saying the shutdown is about politics and other people are driving the shutdown as opposed to him. very rich statement that he made and that shows where we are right now. >> no government shutdown would have been focused on what, dan balz? >> the affordable care act. you can't write the plot and hollywood would have turned it down. here's a crazy way republicans will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> shameless plug, my sister and new brother-in-law just got married, back from their honeymoon. wishing them a lot of luck in their marriage. >> change in your family. >> yeah. julie, jill and jim. >> great piece in the "washington post" on reid and mcconnell and it told you about a lot of why congress doesn't work. >> i was going to say if those two senate leaders aren't getting along, we have a problem. >>> congratulations to taylor brownstein, my young friend who just finished army ranger school. >> no kidding? very impress ichlt tha

lieutenant governor david dewhurst said that obama should be impeached not only for trampling as he saysn our liberties, but what he did in benghazi. three candidates for attorney general oppose a non-discrimination ordinance in san antonio that includes protections for sexual orientation and gender identity. and dewhurst and his challenger support repealing the 17th amendment called for popular election of senators. and they want to have new york, california, saying quote, think about how different our country would be if new york and california weren't the tail wagging the dog. and those other states. it's not america. going back to the use of the term america. it seems in the lexicon of these people to mean white conservatives. i mean, that may be a too broad a definition. how about white right wingers. but they call that america. it's almost like one of those groups in south africa that says we're going to put the, you know, the big logger around us and form a little town somewhere. these guys are unbelievable. go ahead, mayor. i'm sure you have an attitude about these guys. >> they

conversation somebody wants to have with ted cruz as a major donor, ken langone was probably supporting david dewhurstll the big establishment guys were trying to stop ted cruz. cruz is going, you know, i owe you guys nothing. >> and maybe he's not running for president and perhaps it's for ag of texas, something where this is very helpful to him. as you point out, this is great for him with his base. he's not playing to the donors or the wall street guys. >> i think what's interesting, errol, is obviously i think we'll look back at this. this has been this clarifying moment inside the republican party that you're seeing. and this -- the democrats went through this in the '80s. i always remind people that this was the beginning and then after that you had the split between the old labor wing and this new dlc, you know, conservative democratic wing. i think now we're going to start seeing that come up more and more. >> well, that's right. >> in the republican party. >> as long as he's got political entrepreneurs like a cruz who wants to follow the sarah palin model. your worst case scenario if you catc

this time it's texas lieutenant governor david dewhurst who says the president should be impeached overcare. dewhurst joins the chorus of republicans who have recently talked about impeaching the president. that includes sarah palin, sam coburn and kerry bentivolio. let's bring in jimmy williams and robert traynham. robert is a former senior adviser to president george w. bush. good to see both of you. exciting day there in the beltway, huh? >> sure. >> jim, you're just laughing there. jimmy, to you first. in a facebook post sarah palin wrote this, defaulting on our national debt is an impeachable offense and any attempt by president obama to unilaterally raise the debt limit without congress is also an impeachable offense. why so much talk about impeachment here, jimmy? we've been hearing that word a lot lately. >> i said back in june, on june 4th that i thought if we got to the point where we were at this debt ceiling crisis, if we had a government shutdown, blah, blah, blah, the next thing would be impeachment talk. so here we are once again having a conversation about impeachment. t

then we had david dewhurst, he beat him in the runoff despite dewhurst, his establishment and carl rosen and the rest of them throwing in $40 million at ted cruz. the point i am making is that unlike many politicians to come to washington, we beat them. unlike barack obama, to become president of the united states and the freedom to go out there, we have that kind of freedom. it is someone who is acting on principle, he's willing to take on this. but as far as senator ted cruz and many others out there, he really has a constitutional conservatism and it's hard to see how anyone from washington will be able to have as much of a resonant message for americans than a lot of the governors out there. the chief executives at a really presiding over your over your personal liberties and your pocketbook issues and you have a bunch of governors in the midwest and in new jersey, certainly you have governors doing things like cutting taxes and setting up these health exchanges and they will have a lot more to say to the american people and i think that senator cruise is getting ahead of that. >> ho