you had david dinkins who was elected popularly by bringing out his base, and second time he came outat base didn't come out. he doesn't want to be david-ized at this point. >> or jimmy carterrized. just to wrap up. thank you for being here. you are all influential opinion makers in the country, you do a lot of hard work and research, , and i really appreciate it. how many of you think barack obama is going to win re-election? you do? you do? >> definitely. >> i didn't ask if it is possible. i asked how many think he is going to win? >> do you think the american people know about his record, that the media has vetted his record? do you think the american people know we've lot allies we've had the past position, 40 years. >> but that's why we doing the show, pam. we have 30 seconds. how many of you are pretty confident that mitt romney is going to win this election? confident, confident. i'm with you. you think it's a tossup? you do not think so? steve, you are an important voice. >> i have to tell you because axelrod and those guys will start defining mitt romney today it will come do