. >> joining us as david drucker with the washington examiner and coral davenport covering energy and environmental issues. there are some news about john back to the white house. he may urge the obama administration to bypass congress on a number of issues. what are you hearing? >> i think that is old news. has been what has been going on for several years. essentially since the 2010 congressional election. been the wholes strategy on environmental policy and a bunch of other things since republicans took the house in 2010. it is hard for me to imagine how they can double down on that. i think they are doublet that already. i can imagine podesta continuing to carry that out. >> what is your biggest concern? whichis what it is now, is that the obama administration in many cases in environmental action and others as going beyond his constitutional going beyond their role in terms of executive action. i think that should be a very broad-based concern whether you agree or disagree with what they are doing, just in terms of constitutional democracy. >> what is the senate roll to stop that

. >> we continue our conversation with coral davenport and david drucker. some questions on climate issues in louisiana in particular. what did you learn? >> he is in a fastening position. he is the top republican on the senate environment committee. it is very much his role to play a big heart and climate policy. he represents a state that scientists saw will be devastated by climate change. -- say will be devastated by climate change. and he pretty much evaded the whole thing. he has not spoken about climate science. i hear him running away from an issue that is going to be very important for his state. it's hard for republicans to put together the impact of climate change and the unfortunate economic reality of what it means to deal with climate change. he does not seem ready to put that together yet. >> why? why is he evading this? >> the industry that contributes more to his campaigns are the oil and gas industries. that is the bulk of louisiana's economy. louisiana lawmakers are stuck between being dependent on the oil and gas industry that drives the

let's bring in david drucker who watches these things for a living with the washington examiner. vid, welcome. >> hey, good to be here. martha: good to have you with us. i think a lot of folks sort of watched this float under the radar, and now they're looking up and saying what's in this deal? what kind of budget did we get? >> well, we got the budget that was possible. nobody wants a government shutdown, and i think that's the primary driver behind both sides of the aisle, trying to find something they can get through the house, the republican house and the democratic senate. and i think if you want to know why there's not a grand bargain, why there are not some sort of attack on entitlement spending, why there's not a wholesale replacement of sequestration, it's because everybody tried to do what was possible, not what they wished they could do. martha: there's some reporting that says paul ryan and patty murray who, you know, strange bed fellows, very different philosophies on how these things should get done. but that they had the space to do the deal because, you know, the w

let's bring in our panel, david drucker, juan williams, and charles krauthammer.arles, thoughts. >> well, this stuff that has been stolen in mexico is extremely dangerous, and i think it highlights the fact that one of the reasons that we should have a secure southern border is not just to reduce illegal immigration. but there is always a threat, particularly with hezbollah elements in the americas which we know is true, hezbollah has carried out attacks as far away as argentina and it has a basis or at least it has contacts in places like venezuela. if they get -- if they're the ones who are involved here, we have no idea, but it's quite possible. then the alert that we heard earlier in the show that all the ports of entry in the united states are alerted with radiation-detecting equipment are useless. i can't imagine they're going to go through customs tsa in tijuana. so we have to have a border that we can control, particularly in a world where all you need is a small amount of really bad stuff that can hurt a large number of people. >> and this material, juan,

. >> joining us as david drucker with the washington examiner and coral davenport covering energy andmental issu

david, i'm glad you're on the desk this morning. everybody sort of wondering what's next. we've all been talking about the prospect of a big buyback, lbo, spirits and drucker thecompany's balance sheet and consider they've been essentially frozen for many, many, many months, unable to do anything because they didn't have the financials back, that their debt matures in couple of years. if they were to look now to refinance their debt, that could be the most logical next place that herbalife could go, go to market, refinance the debt, take advantage of the low interest rates that everybody has been taking advantage of that they simply haven't been able to and it wouldn't surprised me one bit either if the bankers or wall street are beating down herba life's doors this morning now that they got the financials back. >> net debt is zero. lever up your balance sheet just a bit, still stay conservative, go to two turns, two and a half turns of debt versus ebidta and that would get you to maybe a billion and a half, maybe $2 billion. when you net out debt, they have none at all, buyback stock, increase earnings per share, throw a multiple on it for 2013 and you en