but then john boded mentioned drummer which is short for david drumm who was the c.e.o. at the time of anglo-irish and here's another headline regarding anglo-irish and these tapes that hash tag anglo tapes get this money in tape so drum happy to abuse state guarantee so david john the former chief executive of anglo irish bank laughed at the prospect of abusing the state guarantee the latest revelations from the tapes reveal he said we won't do anything blatant but we have to get the money in get the money and get it in he tells the senior manager of the bank john breaux now this guy david drumm where is he he's in boston seeking bankruptcy protection of the u.s. courts because he owes eight point five million euros to anglo irish bank in a dubious sort of loan to buy shares i was on the pact and in shell last year. in kilkenny and i told pat on his t.v. show that the bankers are laughing at the irish people and they're engaged in failing to disclose big debts essentially telling him breaking this story on the pact any show and i said they have the moral equivalency of