this is david duke. >> there are moments in that movie where he looks like and he sounds like the davidof 1978. it was uncanny for me. >> reporter: i've interviewed duke. topher captures the equally charming, charismatic, and calculating white nationalist i've sat across from. >> for those who would dismiss you as men stuck in the past, you say what? >> i say we're the future. >> reporter: duke has mastered the art of intellectualizing what history long ago deemed indefensible. duke is back in the headlines, front and center at last year's ralfully charlottesville, as documented by indy star reporter. >> we're determined to take our country back. we're going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. that's what we believed in. that's why we voted for donald trump. >> reporter: while president trump has disavowed any affiliation, duke remains a vocal supporter of the president. >> do you hope that president trump sees this movie? >> first of all, i'm not going to the white house. i ain't going! but -- >> i'm thinking the invitation is probably not in the mail. so. just saying. >> i don't

>> this is david duke. >> grand wizard of the ku klux klan that david duke?> director spike lee knew it was not a story locked in the past. understand that history repeats itself and i feel we're at a time that stuff doesn't just jump out of nowhere. >> the real ron starworth is retired but in 1978 he was an undercover detective, the first african american cop on the colorado springs police. >> you see an ad to join the kkk? >> it said ku klux klan for information and a p.o. box. what the heck? i wrote a note to the p.o. box. >> saying what? >> i said my mouth to god's ears i really hate those black rats and anyone else that really doesn't have pure white arian blood running through their veins. >> the language of hate. >> they loved it, right? >> they loved it. >> before long ron starworth was a card-carrying member of the kkk. he built a relationship with a klansman over the phone and a white officer handled the personal meetings. >> was a part of you that was almost laughing on the inside you were playing those guys? >> throughout the whole investigation.

people don't know david duke, the klansman who has resurfaced now reese endcently in politics. play him as an easy character. he doesn't seem demonic, he seems like a nice guy who just wants a whiter america. >> that is the problem with david duke. that is what makes him so much more evil than what the idea of a racist was before he came on the scene. same thing kind of happens in the movie. >> yeah. >> when my character enters, there is kind of the first half of the movie they show what maybe the common idea of a racist. >> the prototypical idea of a racist. >> beer belly, red neck dude. and then he came on the scene and his evil genius as he kind of rebranded racism, and the effects are still being felt today. >> rebranding racism is an interesting concept. there is a poll from last month where people were asked, is donald trump a racist? 49% said yes, 47% say no. >> that's close. >> it's close, right? and this is kind of interesting because, you know, trump -- spike lee said this wasn't meant to necessarily be social commentary about trump's america. it's really hard to not

>> david duke. grand wizard of the ku klux klan. that david duke? >> god. last time i checked. you asked, i hate blacks. i hate jews. mexicans and irish. italians and chinese. but my mouth to god's ears, i really hate those black rats. and anyone else really that doesn't have pure white aryan blood running through their veins. >> i'm happy to be talking to the true white america. >> god bless white america. >> that was a scene from director spike lee's new film, "blackkklansman" out today purposely released one year after charlottesville's race riry ri riot. a true story of a black colorado springs police officer who successfully infiltrated the kkk. that officer would go on to strike up a relationship -- so joining me the man that portrays duke in the film, a pleasure. and congratulations on this film. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> you have been acting for quite a while. a lot of roles. the grand wizard of the kkk. did it take you a minute to say yes? and once you did say yes, tell me why. >> well, i asked to do it so it wasn't like someone asked me. i kind of hunted

he's talking to david duke. >> topher grace. >> but it's david duke. watch this. ♪ ♪ >> hello. >> this is ron stallworth calling. >> who am i speaking with? >> david duke. >> grand wizard of the ku klux klan, that david duke? >> last time i checked. what can i do for you? >> well, since you hate plans, i hate to allow you to go down and anyone else who doesn't have pure white arianne blood. >> talking about pure white american. >> god bless america. let's talk about it. i don't want to give way to the ending. this is true. >> yes. >> people are sitting in the theater like, ah, i can't believe this necessarily happened. i'm like, yes, this is nearly happening and still happening today so i hope this film to which wakeup, not all of them, going back to school days came out in '88. there's a lot of time but not for american. i don't know when it will be and also like that that what's happened the last 18 months, a few registered the vote. mid-term election. i dmoent what's going to make you want to vote. this is evidence what happens when you don't show u

david duke did not show up.er did several of the other speakers who were supposed to be on that list. and while kessler told me earlier in the day he sees his effort here as one about protecting the 1st amendment and about protecting free speech and is not a racist message, several of the people who were in his group on that metro train told me they felt that white people were the founding -- forget the exact word he used, founding race, founding culture of the united states and anyone who wasn't a white america was somehow less american. this is a wholly inconsistent message delivered by an incredibly divisive leader who doesn't appear to be speaking for the folks in his group. and the question of what could be heard of their group, having circled this park a couple of times over the course of the day, i can tell you the answer to that question is nothing. the counterprotesters absolutely dwarfed this message, drowneded it out. it was impossible for these white nationalists to communicate anything except that t

i've said this -- >> did anyone disavow that today, david duke?e not going to because one of the things that happened in 2016 is racism was normalized. it was seen as something that people could be in public and it was perfectly acceptable in polite company to express racist views or what was traditionally thought of as racist views and you can still be accepted in polite society. and i think that, you know, hillary clinton talked specifically about when steve bannon was hired that it was, you know t wasn't the alt-right. we're talking about white nationalism. don't rebrand it as something that sounds softer. talk about it as racism. i appreciate that you say, no, it's racism. you know, i understand what charlie is saying in terms of calling it nativism. we always try to be measured when calling things racist. but this is the moment where we need to do it because it couldn't be more clear. she is basically saying, we want a country that is white. it used to be white and the demographic shifts that are happening in this country to make it a more br

g >>ot to know the klan's grand wizard at the time, david duke. >> you're a white american. >> god blessrica. >> they spoke several times throughout 1978 but just as i started to ask about those conversations. >> why don't you tell him about e latest development? tell him. >> the latest development was i got a phone call yesterday from david duke. [ laught ] >> yesterday? so what did he want to talk about? >> he wanted to talk about the fact that he's concerned about how he is going to be portrayed in this film. he complimented spike and said i've always respected spike lee. which -- [ laughter ] >> which surprised the heck out of me. >> audiees may be surprised how lee ends the film. something most directors would be reluctant to give away. but for him, the painful race-fueled images o charlottesville give the images give starworth's 40-year-old story a relevance. >> david duke, the alt right, the kkk and the neo nazis wrote the >> the operation did not lead to arrests but thwort several cross burnings. >>> that is nightly news for this monday night. i'm lester holt. at for all of ubc n

i was like -- [ laughter ] "i need 'my awakening' by david duke."hat." that then i went on amazon. and -- you know, they ask you a couple times, like, did you mean to order this thing? [ laughter ] and then since then i've been getting the weirdest recommendations.h: >> seah. [ laughter ] you re also in a fantastic netflix film earlier this year, "war machine," or i guess last year now. but you got to work with brad pitt. >> yeah, i'm so excited. 'cause there is a little bit of a buzz around "blackkklansman." and i made a deal with brad on the set. by the way, brad didn't want to hang out with me, i'm sure, as much as he had to. but it all took place in the desert. so it's like -- >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> sorry man, just you and me. being in a blackhawk helicopter for, like, you know, the whole day. so anyway, after a long period of time, i got the courage to ask him what i wanted whicwas at an academy award thing, i mean, we don't go to the same e parties,d brad. [ light laughter ] but i was like, "if i get into an academy award type movie, i

is. >> this is david duke. grand wizard of the ku klux klan. that david duke?ed. what can i do you for? >> well, since you asked, i hate blacks. i hate jews. mexicans and irish. italians and chinese. but my mouth to god's ears, i really hate those black rats and anyone else really that doesn't have pure white aryan blood running through their veins. >> talking to a true white america. >> god bless white america. >> let's talk about it. i don't want to give away the ending to the moo vie and what happened. this a true story. as i'm watching it, people were sitting in the theater going oh -- they were like, i can't believe this happened. did this really happen? i'm like, yes, this did really ma happen. >> and it's still happening today. i hope this film is -- i used the word, two words, wake up, in all my films and all gone back to school days, '88. there's not a time for not just america, but the world to wake up to this rise of the right that's gone globally. i don't know when it will be. i'd also like to add, what happened the last 18 months with this guy in t

there was a time in this country where we did talk about david duke, where he had that leadership position in the clue clu ku klux klan. >> david, i love the way you framed that question. because i believe it was the late '80s or early '90s where he was a candidate for senate or governor. he was rejected. and republicans proudly rejected him. now he is a voice of affirmation. and this is where the president's words have fallen short. truly. and we have to ask donald trump for greater leadership on this. i don't believe we will see it. but, you know, what we saw in charlottesville a year ago from the president, the most authentic moments of a political leader happen in real-time. and the both sides comment he made, the notion that there are good people on both sides, that is the heart of donald trump. and nothing he can say or tweet this weekend will really change that. and i think what the american people wrestle with is how to -- how do you give a second chance to somebody who has lost their credibility on issues of race? and i believe for many americans, including myself, we have found o

>> david duke. >> grand wizard of the klu klux klan. that dude? >> what can i do you for?asked, i hate blacks. i hate jews. mexicans and irish. italians and chinese. but my mouth to god's ears, i really hate those black rats and anyone else that doesn't have pure white aryan blood running through their veins. >> talking to a true white american. >> god bless white america. >> that's a clip from spike lee's new film "blackkklansman" which he deliberately released this weekend to mark the passing of charlottesville. it is based on a true story of an african-american police officer in colorado springs who infiltrated the kkk along with his white partner. the man that inspired that film, author of "blackkklansman" is with us by phone. ron, thank you for taking time to be with us. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> what was it like to see this on film and to take yourself back to those moments? >> it was a very -- i have seen it four times now. i never tire of watching it. it is like an outdoor of body experience. very surreal. hard to believe that that's my name that's coming out o

. >> reporter: he evenoot know david duke. they spoke several times throughout 1978. just as i started to ask about those conversations. >> what dead you tell them about the latest development. >> the latest development i got a phone callesrday from david duke. >> what did he want to talk about about? >> he wanted to talk about he's kw how he will be portrayed. he said i always respected spike lee whichhe surprised heck out of me. >> reporter: audiences may be surprised how lee ends the film. gimething most directors would be reluctant to ve away. the painful race fueled images of charlottesville gives it a frightening relevance. >> david duke, the alt right, the kkk and neo nazis wrote the endings for tfilm. >> lester holtti repor there. white supreme assists are coming to town to rally in the shad deof td -- shadows of the white house. this is the same gro that hel the rally last week in charlottesville where a counter protester was killed. metro says there will not be a private rail i car the group. >>> long term construction is under way. the light rail line willo

and the reason why i compared him to david duke. >> do you think he's a racist? >> let me answer that this way. if i said yes, the headline would be mayor calls president something rejects it and we'd never get to the issue. i would recommend people judge people based on their behavior and when you see people who is speaking in a way or creating a policy based on race, creed, color, sexual orientation, that is racist behavior, so i don't think there's any question that the president has since the moment he began running for office when he said all mexicans are rapists, muslims being evil and terrorists. or the fact that this false equivalency in charlottesville between white supremacists and the protesters. anybody that reads a book on racism would say that looks pretty good and in the south, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, i mean, it's usually a duck. >> i'll take that as a yes. you wound your way around. >> i think i explained myself. it's not about calling people names. it's about accurately and without judgment describing behavior. >> you watc

bush had no problem condemning david duke when he ran in louisiana. bill buckley, my conservative hero, when the john burr society started with that racist nonsense, he said there's no room for that in the conservative movement. we have not seen that from this president. a lot of people in his circle have made excuses for it, and that saddens me more than anything. >> paris, you're a president trump supporter. how would you respond to what sara has to say? we shouldn't try and typecast all of trump supporters, but there are specifically groups of people that identify themselves as white supremacists who say they feel more emboldened because of the president trump presidency. do you think that's happened? >> i think, again, what these people do is utilize the media to get a platform. quite frankly, you give it to them. if i'm someone who wants to be media savvy, i'll say whatever i need to say to do that. it's hard to say that they are looking at this president as someone who supports them when he's denounced them, when he's denounced them on multiple

i don't remember david duke saying i love john mccain. don't remember david duke saying i love mitt romney, i'll all for mitt romney. i just don't remember that, paris. i'm not sure it happened. >> it's a media ploy and you fall for it -- >> is it? >> yes, it is. >> so you're tell meg that happened and i forgot it? >> erin, to answer your question, because it's not joan's show, i believe what's happening is the media is the media is allowed to be played by these racists and you all give them a platform and you feed into the narrative by asking me ridiculous questions. when he's denounced racism, bigotry and violence multiple times back in 2016 -- >> somebody of mexican heritage wouldn't be able to weigh in on his case because he called mexicans rapists -- these are fair questions and that's the -- >> you can make whatever arguments you want but they're fair and important questions and they matter to a whole heck of a lot of people in this country. thank you both very much for being with me. i want to end it there. >> -- what i believe as

. >> grand wizard of the ku klux klan -- that david duke? tom: a kn member the film isin former grand wizard david duke. >> america first. america first. tom: duke is heard using words that president trump also uttered. throughout lee's film, there a b connections made with events in the 1970's and the present day, most notably when it transitions from a fictional ku klux klan rally in the past to the very re protest in charlottesville a ye when white supremacist groups clash violently wi counterdemonstrators. it was a day that resulted in the death of heather heyer, struck down when car drove into a crowd. spike: there are many things we did in the film that we to remind people that this is not just a period piece. when i saw that, an american homegrown act of terrorism, i knew that would be the coda for this film. >> power to the people. >> power to all the people. >> all power to all the people. tom: the film makes the case that the overt racism espoused by the ku klux klan in the 1976 os is still flourishing today, and that president tru

this is david duke. >> reporter: duke has mastered the art of intellectualizing what historyag deemedensible. duke is back in the headline, front and center at last year's rally as documented by indy star reporter. >> we are determined to take our country back. we will fulfill the promises of donald trump. we definitely believe in him. that's why we voted for president trump. >> while president trump disavowed any affiliation. duke remains a vocal supporter of the president. >> do you hope president trump sees this movie? >> first of all, i'm not going to the white house. i ain't going. . >> i'm thinking an invitation is probably not in the maim. just saying. >> i don't have no problem in him and david duke seeing it, because they're in it. they're in the film. >> for all the dark humor, creative cinematography, "black klansman" is thrilling. a new take on america's oldest sins. >> hour thanks to byron pitts there. it looks fascinating. i wait a minute indicate to see it. august 19th. it's made some $23 million there. >> it looks like a conversation you want to have with your frenz yo

actor topher grace portrays david duke. thank you so much for never putting your country second.ilm really shows more of what the modern—day idea of racist was at the beginning of the ‘70s, kind of beer belly, redneck dude. and then david, the most evil thing about him, he's really brilliant, he figured out a way to put a different face on racism. america first. all: america first! duke is heard using words that president trump has also uttered. throughout lee's film, there's connections to be made with events in the 19705 and the present—day, most notably when the film transitions from a fictional ku klux klan rally in the past to a very real protest in charlottesville a year ago, when white supremacist groups clashed violently with counterdemonstrators. it was a day that resulted in the death of heather heyer, struck down when a car drove into a crowd. the film is quite provocative in a way, do you feel it could really entrench people, in terms of their opinions rather than bringing about enlightenment? i've done my part and we'll see how the world sees it. this film is about t

of it the real escalation started when the virginia state police pushed the all right group the david duke crowd out onto the very same street where auntie four was waiting for them it was absolutely dumb striking i was standing with the former mayor of charlottesville dave norris we were standing right at the side of the park covering it and he looked at me and said what the heck are they doing there were six other exits to the park on the other side of the park they could have pushed the crowd out that way and sent them to their cars and probably that's all we would have talked about for august but they put them both together where the violence ensued almost predictably you alluded a minute ago to the president's take on this here's what he said after things calm down what about the all left they came charging at the as you say the alter a do they have any semblance of guilt it's not. ask you this what about the fact they came charging that they came charging with clubs in their hands wing in clubs do they have any problem i think they do you know. that was a horrible horrible day. how d

she just didn't want to be linked with david duke. countable for those statements. we saw people boycott her show for a lot over the gun control debate and david hogg. i think it's time for people to stand up because this is not a dog whistle, folks. this is yelling and screaming racist comments from the tree tops and people like her need to be reined in. >> is that a direct result of the make america great rhetoric we've been hearing for the last two years? >> it is. regrettably it's nothing new. what laura ingraham said, we go back in our history books and the same thing was being said by the no nothings 100 years ago. our country is being changed by immigrants. yes, it is true, we are at a new record peak of foreign born population. the record was those ellis island days of the late 1800s and early 1900s. yes, our country has changed but it has been a continual change. sometimes there are pauses and what she's really referring to is the 1965 immigration act when we saw family reunification really change the face of this country. obv

so when white supremacists get your meaning, when david duke gets your meaning, and indeed when, you get your meaning, i think she said it exactly how she wanted to the first time. >> and s.e., when laura ingraham comes out and says the second time that she disavows white nationalism, disavows david duke, though she didn't want to mention him by name in that second clip, what do you make of that denunciation? is that enough? i think i saw something about you said no take backsies or something on twitter about all this. >> yeah, you know, to say she was not talking about race is laughable. again, she was explicit about her -- the changing demographics. she wasn't talking about the country getting younger. she was talking about immigration, explicitly. you don't get to just say that's not what i meant, you're taking me out of context. we took you in context because you gave us plenty of it. the problem isn't, for me, laura ingraham per se. it's the millions of people who agree with her. if you leave a major city and step into any small town, rural community, or even a suburb, you will

this was naked and if she was uncomfortable by david duke praising her. >> there is a flashing irony alert. the first lady's parents became u.s. citizens. >> of which the president is not a fan as we know and would like to do away with. >> i wonder if laura ingram will thing the slovenia face of -- >>> a moment in the paul manafort case that may give us a clue into the mueller probe. ng n information. where in all of this is the stuff that matters? the stakes are so high, your finances, your future. how do you solve this? you partner with a firm that combines trusted, personal advice with the cutting edge tools and insights to help you not only see your potential, but live it too. morgan stanley. olay total effects. the power of 7 benefits all in one bottle. without costing $100, $200 or $400. enriched with vitamin b3 complex, for beautiful skin. olay. who would have guessed? an energy company helping cars emit less. making cars lighter, it's a good place to start, advanced oils for those hard-working parts. fuels that go further so drivers pump less. improving efficiency is what we

what about david duke? this is literally trying to establish a generalization with a solitary example. quite frankly if you were to make a list of the let's say 200 leader of the ku klux klan, going back to the 1860s all the way to the present, you find about 95% of them were democrats. .. think about that. you had to be in the plan to advance the democratic party. here's what i'm getting at. yes, we should repudiate these guys, do the best to boot them out of the republican party. but do not be a sucker for the idea that it's because david duke is trying to be republican while the party shuns him. the weight of the evidence is that the vast majority of klansmen, the lynching, the staged rankings were people brought hamburger steel while they watch people hanging from trees. that stuff, that bad stuff was done with the approval and sometimes organization of the party that we now know as the democratic party. [applause] let me say in closing that it is always an honor to speak to you. i speak to a lot of dif

leader david duke today we are privileged. to be among white men. and white women. such as yourselves real warriors for the real america the america that aren't sisters fought and died for. the true white american race the backbone from whence came our great southern heritage. and i want to thank you. thank you so much. for never putting your country second. america first earth. wow you get chills just watching that david leavitt's from our culture desk is here with a little bit of analysis and you know the reason why that really resonates is the fact that a lot of people will recognize that phrase right this is no mistake this is spike lee reminding us that the k.k.k. was using that motto before donald trump picked it out and it's also no mistake that this movie's coming out this weekend this is the one year anniversary of the racist rallies in charlottesville virginia that ended in tragedy and that trump basically refused to condemn now the movie black klansman though it's based on a true story right yeah this is based on the memoirs of ron stallworth who was dete

did you really trick david duke into taking a picture with you?t's incredible. >> is it exactly as depicted in the move? >> i think spike spent a little more time on that one. >> hey, he got notes from malcolm x. >> it's amazing to me how much this story sort of imitates real life. that's what took me aback when i saw this movie. >> well, my co-writer kevin willmott and i we felt that if this film was going to connect we would have to put stuff in it that would make you and everybody else -- >> yeah. >> it's happening today. i don't want it to be a pbs documentary and that to the code of the movie. >> ron, you talked about in an interview i read about your relationship with david duke and at that time not many in the country knew who david duke was. he took a liking to you, at least over the phone. you said that had you gone public with this investigation you firmly believe that david duke would have not gone on to have the political career and o might have been possible simply because he would have had to answer to the people he was trying to app

this is david duke.""grand wizard of the ku klux klan? that david duke?"ack klansman," topher grace, as david duke, gets a call from undercover detective ron stallworth. recently, the tables turned: the real ron stallworth got a call from the real david duke! "he was very concerned about the fact, about how he might be portrayed in this film. i think that was the gist of why he called.""we are in a renaissance of documentary. people are realizing that there is as much drama in what is and what was as anything that the human imagination dreams up."learn documentary filmmaking from ken burns! the filmmaker behind "the civil war," "baseball," "jazz," "the vietnam war," and many more memorable docs is the latest high-profile professional to join the online teaching portal master-class. burns will share his filmmaking techniques, and teach students how to find what he calls the "drama of truth." info at master-class dot-com. in hollywood, i'm david daniel. (lydia) still ahead on the kron four morning news... bart holds a special meeting on what can be done to k

david duke was at this rally. he has changed on his posture toward this david duke element. look at the hard edge, the bitterness and the anger, racial anger. he gives, by this, he gives permission for the expression of just sort of flat out racist statements that would not have heard ten years ago and would have been rejected by any previous president that i can think of going back to woodrow wilson. republican or democrat. and trump encourages it and brings it out into the sunshine and i think the party will pay a price, the country is paying a price. >> thank you all for joining us. and be sure to tune in on sunday. msnbc, "breaking hate," 9:00 p.m. sunday night. on monday, chris will be back and sit down with omarosa talking about her new book "unhinged." >>> coming up, rick gates copped a plea. the mueller team is not done with him. what role is he playing in the russia probe. next, chris matthews talked to professor about race in america. and who the voters think is scarier, donald trump or nancy pelosi. kris kobach says he is going it recuse himself from the vote coun

he works his way up the chain all the way to david duke, the grand wizard. to face—to—face meetings, they have to get someone else to play ron, so they pull in his partner, played by adam driver, who isjewish. they say, i will do the voice on the phone, you do it in person. they have different attitudes to the case initially. here is a clip. i'm not risking my life to prevent some rednecks from lighting a couple of sticks on fire. this is the job. what's your problem? that's the problem. for you, it's a crusade, for me it's a job. it's not personal. why haven't you bought into this? because you are jewish, brother. the so—called chosen people. you have been passing for a wasp. a dull white boy. why do some light skinned light—skinned black folks folks pass for white? the balancing act is between humour and horror. it is produced by the producer of get out. jordan peele said it was a documentary. this takes a historical story and brings it right up to date with shocking footage of cha rlottesville. depictions of neo—nazis and extreme right wingers. this could

a state of emergency in charlottesville, the president refuses to denounce white supremacists, david duke on another cable news network, he said they are very fine people on both sides. >> look at charlottesville, david duke, the idea that insane people exist that is his fault? it is not. >> that he doesn't denounce them. >> what does that have to do with the state of emergency? >> it is called you denounce people with horrific viewpoints that have no place in america and black people suffered under white people pretending it wasn't happening under jim crow during reconstruction, during slavery and you want to pretend if we just ignore that it is happening everything is okay. >> you are talking about jim crow long before donald trump was in office, things from decades, centuries ago. answer what vince was saying which is this president of the united states is lowering the unemployment rate for african-americans beyond any level they have ever seen. how is that not a good thing? >> of course is good to have low unemployment. it is also important wages keep up with inflation. since the tax

>> david dukes said a year ago that is why we elected donald trump was to protect statues like the robert e. lee statue and protest the way they protested. when the president of the united states advocated his moral leadership decisively and decidedly then that set a tone for t for the year and we are still living with those after shocks. >> clarence, you get to write history in realtime on a daily basis. is it possible when we look back at 2018, part of the plot is we have racism and activism and both as concurrent growth stocks. >> that's a good way to look at. it was quite a wake up call many of us had a year ago that race relations have gotten this bad only a few years of optimism that sprung up of barack obama's successful campaign. i never used it but a lot of people were questioning whether that happened. i did not realize how much my spirits have been lifted and my optimism have gotten inflated and told the tragedy in charlottesville a year ago, i have to say as one who remembers the summer of kent state of 1970, four college students killed while protesting the war and killed by

and at that time, not many people in the country knew who david duke was.ook a liking to you, at least over the phobe. you said that had you gone public with this investigation, you firmly believe that dashds duke would not have gone on to have the political career and have become as powerful a figure as he did become. >> i'd like to think that that might have been possible because he would have had to have answered to the people he was trying to apeople too why he got conned as black man. i feel like had we gone public, we might have been able to impact that. i don't know. but i have a feeling we might have. >>> it is a rare opportunity for fans of disney memorabilia. i'll say. for the past 63 years, disney land in anaheim, california, has drawn millions of visitors from all over the world, becoming known as the happiest place on earth. spent many a birthday there. now fans have a chance to take historic pieces of disney home to their place on earth. jamie yuccas reports with the dream assignment from los angeles. >> reporter: this former sporting goods st

david duke loved. he tweeted about it in a now deleted post. do not worry. laura ingram is a national tv celebrity so she has had plenty of chances to explain that she's definitely not a racist. she waited 24 hours and said this. >> the purpose of last night's angle was to point out that the rule of law, meaning secure borders, is something that used to bind our country together. and despite what some may be contending, i made explicitly clear that my commentary had nothing to do with race or ethnicity. >> ma'am, you made explicitly clear when you said illegal and legal. all an innocent misunderstanding. is that what we're supposed to take this as? just in case i invite you to take a very good look at the words used. massive dem graph isk changes foised on the american people. and changes none of us ever voted for and most of us don't like. we know exactly what dam graphics refer to because the census bureau spells it out. age, sex and racial competition of a population. if she has no problem with racial changes is she up in arms there are too many old peopl

the klan", and they believe him, and he starts working his way right up the chain, right up to david dukeface—to—face meetings, of course, they have to get somebody else to play ron, so what they do is they pull in his partner, flip, played by adam driver, who isjewish, and they say "ok, well, i'll do the voice on the phone, you do it in person". but they have very different, initially very different, attitudes to the case. here's a clip. well, i'm not risking my life to prevent some rednecks from lighting a couple of sticks on fire. this is the job. what's your problem? that's my problem. for you, it's a crusade. for me, it's a job. it's not personal, nor should it be. why haven't you bought into this? why should i? because you're jewish, brother. the so—called chosen people. you've been passing for a wasp. white anglo—saxon protestant, cherry pie, hot dog, white boy. that's what some light—skinned black folks do — they pass for white. i thought this was really good. firstly, it's a film of balancing acts. the central balancing act is between humour and horror, and it's no surprise to di

this is david duke. grand wizard of the ku klux klan, that david duke? god! last time i checked.ngton need to use when he impersonates a ku klux klan wannabe, it's quite harsh. how did he deal with having to say those words, be that character? that was the job. he's undercover. in fact, there's a scene where he's, like, holding the phone so the other guys can hear it and everybody‘s laughing. so there is humour in this film. and as people, especially white audience members, they're, like, looking around, like, "is it ok to laugh?" but they can laugh. ijust don't want people to laugh at the end of the movie. i find it interesting in the film, ron stallworth jokes that david duke could never be elected to president. that line made me laugh, it made me smile. intentional! we put a whole lot of things like that in the film. my co—writer, kevin willmott, automatically had people think, like... today, today. and we did that because we're firm believers of history repeating itself. this stuff you see in a film did not just happen overnight. the term america first was started by the klan

and david duke said that weekend in charlottesville a year ago that this is why we elected donald trump, was to protect statues like the robert e. lee statue, to protest in the way they protested, and when the president of the united states abdicates his moral leadership so decisively and so decidedly, then that set a tone for the ensuing year, and we're still living with those aftershocks. >> clarence, you get to write history in real time on a daily basis. is it possible that when we look back at 2018 part of the subplot is going to be we had both racism and activism both as concurrent growth stocks? >> that's a good way to look at it because it was quite a clash, quite a wake-up call i would say that many of us had a year ago that race relations had gotten this bad only a few years after the optimism that sprung up from barack obama's successful pain. remember that phrase post-racial society, brian? i never used it but a lot of people were questioning whether that would happen. and i realized how much my spirits had been lifted and my optimism had gotten inflated until the tragedy hi

the demonstration that david duke was going to be, he is not here.have this white group doing one thing and one thing only and it was said most eloquently earlier.they are trying to get -- even as a minority there generating and getting the attention. i just want and hope that all americans can say, this is not what we want as a country. we are bigger than this. arthel: we are bigger than this. we will leave it there, ted williams. thank you. eric: coverage will continue of these protests and there's a lot of other news going on. today through the weekend on the international front, we will have that as a fox news channel coverage of this sunday afternoon continues. we will be right back. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ can make you feel unstoppable. ♪ but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved

trump tweeting -- former kkk grand wizard david duke and the far integrate -- vdare talking but genocidesponse wrote -- again, this coming just after trump speechwriter fired after was revealed he spoke at a whites from assist conference. talk about the latest attack on south africa and what it means. trump has history of tweeting racist ideas. the idea that he would pick out south africa from all of the countries that have problems in the world is quite incredible. you might remember dylann roof, the person who massacred nine people in a church in charleston, had the emblem of the former south african regime on his coat as well as the emblem of the former regime in rhodesia. of course he believed there was a white genocide of a. trump tweeting this kind of thing is really play into the hands and energizing the right as evidence by tweets of people like david duke that he mentioned. amy: and he tweeted this right after their was a segment on fox news. finally, we just spoke with professor johnson in north carolina, the only african-american woman dissenting vote on keeping the confederat

>> so david duke and that ilk is who pushes this. this is who the president gets in bed with.ho is a republican, by the way, is identifying it correctly. this is a base move of those same elements that think there's a moral equivalence between neo-nazis in charlottesville and those that are fighting confederate statutes. but when you really think about this, on a global scale, from a global perspective, katie, you've got the land of mandela being maligned by the president of the united states on a plan that has not even been fully formulated. this is insulting. he -- nothing is sacred to him, to try to get people's minds off of what he's doing. >> greg, for foreign policy, do you have any thoughts about what this would mean for the president? >> well, the united states does not have an ambassador to south africa right now. and if it did, the ambassador or the state department could explain the nuances in this case. the president has said very little about africa. a couple times, he has, he's stepped in it, created a controversy. so i think it's not only south africa, but the e