. >> david eisenberg. bit of a devil's advocate question for mr. juare. given in the past year you've seen explicit guidance put out by groups like the international maritime organization, baltic international marine council and major insurers, lloyd's of london, all of which advocate using private sector security contractors for defense and maritime, shipping, who seem to have at least as good a track record in terms of defending shipping as anything done by nato flotillas. my question is do you see a way where nato would ever conceivably outsource to the private sector a job of defending the industry? because even major partner states such as great britain and the united states in the past year had given their official and premature approval to this concept, hillary clinton in the last year, british foreign office issuing a general license for general security service pro virsd. it would seem to me they've done at least as good a job as the flotillas. do you see that as being conceivable and feasible putting aside what it says about the usefulness of na

david eisenberg, a bit of a devil's advocate question for mr. worre, also on piracy. given that in the past year you've seen explicit guidance put out by groups like international maritime organization, baltic international marine council and major insurers, lloyd's of london all of which advocate using private sector security contractors for defense of maritime shipping who seem to have at least as good a track record in terms of defending shipping as anything done by nato flotillas, my question is simply do you see a way where they toe -- nato would ever conceivably outsource to the private sector the job of defending the industry? because even major partner states such as great britain and the united states in the past year have given their official and premature approval to this concept. hillary clinton in the last year, the foreign office issuing a general license for security service providers. and it would seem that to date they've done, as i said, at least as good a job as the flotillas. so do you see that as being conceivable? all things aside, what it says a