when they are 18 months or so, they will go for slaughter, and david findlay will have income from theat he has lost in milk, and the calves will have lived with their mums until they‘ re weaned. it has already got the attention of the wider industry. if we can make it profitable at current prices, then the question then becomes the one which we are really aiming for, which is, and it is the one the industry doesn't want to hear, which is, ok, if you can do it... i know, the policymakers won't change anything, the supermarkets won't change anything, nobody will change anything because it is working for them just now. the only thing that will change is public perception and if public perception is changed sufficiently, then the rest will follow. milk means calves. but consumers potentially do have power over what happens to the ones the industry doesn't need. calves born on this farm will have 18 months with their mums before slaughter. calves born elsewhere won't. and there is a massive world of difference. the question i am asking is, are we comfortable with that difference? the end r