but we do have david folkenflik.g question, when you do a book about rupert murdoch is, how do you report it? because it's very hard to get anyone to talk to you. how did you find the experience of trying to break into this world? >> it certainly helped, i've been covering media for over 13 years now. originally with "the baltimore sun," since 2004, for npr news. and it means that i've done stories over the years on all these properties and all these events. so that happens. it means i have the knowledge base to start with and a lot of sources to start with. and you build on that. in 2011, on july 5th, i looked online in a video and you saw prime minister cameron talking from afghanistan with the president of afghanistan, hamid karzai want some hacking scandal that was breaking out in london. and this struck me as incredibly important. and itself offered an additional incredible window ultimately over time through documentary and evidentiary path, to how news corp. worked behind the scenes. and in both these ways, th

defended the news channel against any blogs that had something negative to say according to david folkenflik the book's author and former fox staffers would use anywhere from twenty to one hundred fake accounts to defend the channel's honor and the internet savvy among you might note that having different account names isn't enough to keep the comments from getting traced back to fox news but the fox p.r. department department already knew that and so workers used anything from dial up connection to old laptops to avoid detection so should we expect news organizations to hire digital armies or is this one step too far to talk about this and other cable news stories of the day i'm joined now by georgetown journalism professor christopher chambers thank you so much for coming in do so first of all let's start off by talking about fox news is this idea of paying bloggers to write popular comments and really praise you on the ethical or is it just good p.r. it's unethical and it's good. it's as simple as that but if it's their business model this is something that they did a while back so it's k

i'm david folkenflik and this is "reliable sources." >>> today we'll consider how the news you consume gets to you and how that flow of information can get cutoff and what changes are made in coverage. take this month's political drama over the partial government shutdown and the del ceiling debate. at times it seemed as if the economic story affecting millions of americans and markets abroad was overshadowed. joining me here in washington to tease out how the media performed or didn't perform is david gura and michael. how well did they do? >> i wouldn't give them high marks but i wouldn't say it was all bad. the difference is the press is used to covering political polling. that's a psychological measure of what's going on. the real story is what was going on in the bond market and you didn't see a lot of top notch coverage. >> tell me what you mean by that. >> the bond market was the real signal as to whether or not there was going to be a default and how serious the idea of a default was. the bond market never blinked during this process. >> it translated into political press corps

david folkenflik, joe muto, ana marie cox, that is all in for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" begins right now. >>> thanks at home for joining us this hour. if you are watching this show right now, statistically speaking, there's a pretty good chance that you also like watching "the daily show." "the daily show" has been on the air for almost 20 years now. next year will be 15 years, with the show being hosted by the great jon stewart. "the daily show" airs on comedy central. and even though it handles very current events, sometimes even very arcane matters of policy and politics, the line from "the daily show" geniuses has always been that they are fake. that they are a fake news show. and so, yeah, they may be informing their audience about what's going on in the world, but they shouldn't be seen as news. they're fake news. fair enough. arguable, because they cover a lot of actual news and people do learn about what's going on in the world through the lens of the "daily show's" comedy writers and jon stewart. but fair enough, they say it and to a cer