. >> part 1 of our interview with biographer david garro talking about "rising star: the baking of barack obama" covering president obama's life up to his winning the presidency. >> i think that barack's political aspirations and sense of destiny lead him to push sheila jager aside. during that time, there was a well-known political figure in chicago. hugely respected man. senator dick newhouse. whom everybody in black chicago believed could never go higher because he was married to a white woman. so it is in the political tradition of black chicago in the late 1980s in the early 1990s that for a black man to aspire to represent black chicago it is necessary to a black spouse. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >>> coming up next, discussion on the changing alliances between israel and arab states in the middle east. we'll hear about the ongoing dangers of isis and the impact of the iranian nuclear deal. this was held recently by the hudson institute. >> good afternoon. very nice to see a really large lovely audience. it's for a really fantastic panel. also wanted to welco

. >> part 1 of our interview with biographer david garro talking about "rising star: the baking of barack obama" covering president obama's life up to his winning the presidency. >> i think that barack's political aspirations and sense of destiny lead him to push sheila jager aside. during that time, there was a well-known political figure in chicago. hugely respected man. senator dick newhouse. whom everybody in black chicago believed could never go higher because he was married to a white woman. so it is in the political tradition of black chicago in the late 1980s in the early 1990s that for a black man to aspire to represent black chicago it is