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back in the panel we're joined now by david gergen who has worked with presidents both republican andnce the nixon administration. what do you make of this? is he a bystander president? >> i think he has a management style that does not lend itself to vigorous governing. he's a first class individual. he's a moral man. i worked for nixon. we don't always have that. give him a lot of credit for that. i give him credit for passing a health care bill. seven presidents try and failed. he got it passed. it's become a triumph and a tragedy with what's happening with it. where i think, anderson, he is much much better at campaigning. he ran a superb two campaigns. very well run. very well administered. the awe of the country in both cases. yet he doesn't run the government well. >> what is that? is it just a completely different exercise? >> very different exercise with very different kind of talents. i think they came in thinking the white house was essentially a political instrument as opposed to a governing instrument. and the inner circle was mostly political. if you look at bill clinton

david gergen sees this as a big problem. what is your response, van? se old man of washington, d.c. i would be foolish to take him on too hard. he was too much of a policy dude and he wasn't handling the politics of public persuasion of dealing with the hill, of dealing with the republicans. now, they're switching it up and saying he's too political. i think what you have right now is a president dealing with an unprecedented level of opposition from the republican parties. almost like there's a tea party insurgency that is more interested in making it hard for him to govern than to help him govern and in that situation, you cannot make mistakes and he has handed his enemies, i think, a bludgeon to beat. >> van jones, thank you very much. you can watch van and rest of the "crossfire" co-hosts at 6:00 p.m. >>> some comments by ted cruz's father are resurfacing. united states is a christian nation and that president obama should, "go back to kenya." racist? does that hurt or help the tea party? we'll talk about that, neblsht. >>> senator ted cruz's father

political correspondent, candy crowley, anchor of "state of the union" and senior political analyst, david gergenou've heard the back and forth, speaker, the republican leadership in the house, about to go into the white house now. they may already be there for the meeting with president's you've heard the reaction from the white house from the press secretary jay carney. are we on the verge of a limited breakthrough, limited ability to raise the debt ceiling over the next six weeks? >> afraid not, wolf. it sounds good on the surface, in some respects, and jay carney said at least they're talking about raise the debt ceiling. the proposal as a wholes ace nonstarter. there's no way the white house is going to accept a short extension of the debt ceiling and then go into negotiations with the government still closed down. that's exactly what the president said he would not do. he's made it very clear from the beginning. i think we were so close to an agreement, so close to getting this resolved, and now i'm afraid we're still in a pickle here. i don't think -- i don't think there's any way the pres

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but have a four-week period or six-week period -- before a shutdown again. >> david gergen, candy crowley. >>> up next, an off duty new york city police officer was present during the confrontation with the bikers and the suv driver. also the good samaritan risked harm to himself stepping in to stop angry bikers from attacking the suv's driver even more. it's a conversation you'll see only here. also breaking news in nebraska, tornadoes touching down causing extensive damage. the latest on that. >>> welcome back. sock breaking news. we just learned new information about that motorcycle mayhem here in new york. an undercover new york city police officer was one of bikers on the ride. he allegedly witnessed the confrontation. a biker smashing in the driver's side window of an suv caught by another biker's helmet cam. the officer was off-duty at the time, a member of a bikers club. a source telling our reporter he did not intervene to stop the confrontation and did not tell his superiors he was there until wednesday. unclear if he violated police department policy by waiting so long to repor

. >> we have senior political analyst david gergen. you look at a country like france which actually does a lot of spying on the united states, particularly for trade secret, for private companies, france is well-known. obviously china does tremendous amounts as well. i was surprised to learn about france's extensive spying efforts and seemed to be kind of unapologetic about it. >> very unapologetic. i think there are two two issues here. whether we should be trying to spy on angela merkel the way other nations try to spy on us. i would have to say that's a close call. but it ought to be done very thoughtfully. and if you are spying on the personal cell phone of the the pivotal player, most important leader in europe you would take great care. and consider if it's exposed how much it will hurt you in germany. to go back to andrew sullivan's point, this is a hugely hot issue in germany given the nazi background and given nastasi. the other issue is, the white house on something as serious as this, said the president didn't know, he didn

but have a four-week period or six-week period -- before a shutdown again. >> david gergen, candy crowley. >>> up next, an off duty new york city police officer was present during the confrontation with the bikers and the suv driver. also the good samaritan risked harm to himself stepping in to stop angry bikers from attacking the suv's driver even more. it's a conversation you'll see only here. also breaking news in nebraska, tornadoes touching down causing extensive damage. the latest on that. ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good for me around ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit tired ♪ ♪ of craving something that i can't have ♪ ♪ turn around barbara ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ try new fiber one cinnamon coffee cake. ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the fines

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. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >>> tonight the "ac 360 later" earlier david gergen described the differenceween a government shutdown and debt ceiling default. one he said is holding a gun to president obama's head, the other is holding a gun at the economy's head. back with the panel talking about what a default could do and the politicians who are saying no big deal. when you hear that, christiane? >> i find it very difficult. all the economists who are actually professional economists, not to mention world leaders who are holding trillions of dollars of debt, et cetera, are saying this could trigger a 2008-style economic meltdown or worse. to me that's freaky. and there's so many people who are saying it that the few deniers in this corner cannot be equivalent to the bulk of the opinion which is that it would be catastrophic. not just that, i said the other night the united states ace superpower not just because of the great military, not just because of the great democracy but because of the confidence in the dollar and backing up the world economy in currency. the minute you start chip

. >> i want to bring in candy and on the phone senior political analyst david gergen.er there getting mad and saying this unnamed white house official talked about naming and we saw ran paul talk to mitch o'connell off mic and talk about they think they will win and the messages is right on. i mean, is this game playing? is that what is going on here? >> it's messaging. i mean, call it what you want. the amount of work being done in washington to get something settled is inversely proportion to the number of news conference ps a s and times people appear on camera. we had nothing but that this week which means nothing is happening behind the scenes. this is about jockeying for position while they try sort of internally to figure out in the democratic and republican side what it is they will or won't do. publicly they have been stuck on the same position for a couple of weeks at this point, and i think it's pretty clear it will kind of, this whole conversation, is going to flow into the debt ceiling and i don't think they will have some big old package that comes as a c

and so is john king and gloria borger and david gergen.ss after the 2012 election and you wonder who are these people, where are they? >> taken hostage by space aliens? look, we've been through this every few minutes since that election. why? part of it is what you were just discussing with the house members. there are 30 to 40 members of john boehner's republican conference who just simply don't want to get along, who simply -- if the president wanted a resolution to say sunrise is a good thing, they would oppose it. not all of it traces to president obama. the tea party started with the bank bailouts. they not only don't like the president, they don't like and trust their own republican establishment. for republicans listening, yes, there are plenty of reasons where the democrats haven't reached out. rich was correct when he was where's the president. the president should be doing this all the time so when you get to the crisis point, you can have a trustful relationship. that all sounded great after the election. we've seen almost none

. >> david gergen respected on both sides of the aisle told me today it's going to take, after this dealout a week then really start to negotiate. president obama and joe biden have to be involved actively. he says house and senate republicans have to be at the same table. is that going to happen, though? some people believe it's not going to. again, when you've got some of these conservatives in these safe districts who are just -- have to stick to their pledge not to raise taxes or they could be fearful of re-election, that's going to be tough down the road. >> todd, thank you very much. dozens of veterans meanwhile very angry about the partial government shutdown. they rallied at the national world war ii memorial here in washington earlier today. the group wanted to draw attention to what veterans will face if there's no deal. the department of veterans affairs says it won't be sending out more than $5 million in benefits checks starting november 1st. here's what one veteran who attended the rally thinks about that. >> just crazy is what it is. >> politics. >> absolute politics. >> a

. >> yeah, gloria borger, appreciate you being on, david gergen. >> you can follow me on twitter at anderson cooper. >>> the death of a young man named kendrick johnson, the official report calls it an accident. new evidence points to foul play and revelations about the treatment of his body are almost unspeakable. >>> another exclusive, one of the survivors in the terrorist massacre in kenya. the woman in that photo is talking about her ordeal. >> i remember her looking at me and saying, are we going to die? it was actually the first time i was thinking to myself, i think we are, and i told her, i think we are going to. ...for the year. hi. sorry. just want to say, i bundled home and auto with state farm, saved 760 bucks. love this guy. so sorry. okay, does it bother anybody else that the mime is talking? frrreeeeaky! [ male announcer ] savings worth talking about. state farm. losing thrusters. i need more power. give me more power! [ mainframe ] located. ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingeniously wired machine that optimizes raw data to help safely discover and maximize resou

white house veteran david gergen said the issue is confidence. >> this is an administration that has, but has never been very good at execution of policies from day one. they -- it's an administration which has some really smart people in it, and a lot of younger people. it doesn't have very many heavyweights. >> reporter: administration officials point out the president only learned of the spying effort this summer, halting some of the program, but dodged on whether mr. obama is being kept out of the loop. is there a colonel that the president is being kept in the dark on some of these issues? >> well, it's certainly true that you have contemplated a bunch of disparate issues. >> reporter: but -- >> i can give assurances to the publics in europe and around the world that we're not going around snooping at people's e-mails or listening to their phone calls. >> reporter: is that statement still opera tiff? ijts jim, what president president said was true. >> reporter: but cnn has also learned that the president was made aware of the broad parameters of the surveillance, a spy program

michael, we heard david gergen saying he doesn't even think the short-term extension will fly based on the fact the white house continues to say absolutely no negotiating. what do you think? >> i think the big negotiation today in these meetings is going to be whether boehner will also agree to an extension on the shutdown issue, that is to open up the government again for another six weeks. and if boehner does give that up, i think obama will accept it, but that's going to be a tough negotiation because right now, it looks like the leverage is with boehner. if obama just signs this deal on the debt ceiling and the government continues to shut down, then he's still negotiating under the gun, as it were. >> david and michael, i mean this in the nicest way possible. i don't want you two back here in six weeks. >>> coming up, more confusion about the sign-up for obama care. hear what some customer service operators told americans trying to sign up. >>> plus this -- >> i walk into his room. and i kissed his picture and say happy birthday, kendrick. you know, his dreams, memories, they'll a