we're going to you, and then i'll get to you, david gergen. >> that's what happens when you have two rprises me. jared kushner is a straight shooter, so it did surprise me to find that out. >> what do you think, david gergen? >> yeah, i was surprised by the whole thing, but i don't think it's going to go very far. i think it's another hit below the water line. but this particular issue i think is not going to explode the way -- i think the tax issue, for example, is much more accessible to most americans. they understand there's been a lot of concealment of his taxes and his losses. and people are waking up to the fact that a lot of his original assets came from his inheritance. this is a guy who had a huge inheritance from his family, managed to fritter away a lot of it apparently, and now is claiming he's a great capitalist. i think the documents that have come out in the last 48 hours, show the lie of that once again. >> we have the tax documents coming out that we were just talking about. and now we have all these transcripts coming out with people in trump's circle speaking to th

so, i think that's a huge factor. >> yeah, david gergen, paul begala, abby philip.e it. -- coming, up the attack that nearly crippled -- north carolina county. zeroing in on two possible motives. details from north carolina are next. also, german officials arrest more than two dozen people for what they say was a plot with ties to qanon to overturn the government in germany. ♪ this is how it feels to du more with less asthma... ...thanks to dupixent. dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. it's an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. and can help improve lung function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. dupixent helps prevent asthma attacks... and can even reduce or eliminate oral steroids. imagine that. ♪ dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. get help right away if you have rash, chest pain, worsening shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor about new or worsening joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines, including steroi

. >> david gergen, paul begala, abby phillips, appreciate it, thank you. >>> the investigation in the north carolina. details next. >>> also german officials arrest more than two dozen people for what they say was a plot with ties to qanon to overthrow the government in germany. >>> days after an electric substation in north carolina was attacked, the same power company, duke energy, tonight is reporting shots fired near another substation, this time in south carolina. duke energy is working with the fbi and there are no reports of anyone harmed nor power outages. this happening days after the attack on those two substations in north carolina county. curfew and state of emergency there will be rescinded tomorrow morning. tens of thousands were initially without power. tonight, north carolina officials are offering up to $75,000 for information leading to the arrest of anyone involved. sources tell cnn that investigators were zeroing in on two possible motives, and they've uncovered new clues. whitney wild joins me now with the latest from car thaj, north carolina. whitney, it seems in