david goodfriend what do you think? >> insider trading is insider trading. it undermines markets when people use nonpublic information to execute a trade. whether you're the tipper or tippee if there's an inside trade it kills free market. it should be illegal. now your reporter made an excellent point which is here in washington people hire folks like me i'm a lawyer lobbyist. i walk around congress all day. i talk to government agencies all day. they want to know what's going on inside. at what point does that information become insider information that's not public? i would argue that something like the release of the department of labor unemployment statistics, or the producer price index, or these types of government data releases, that's really insider information. >> if you get it. >> if you get it early and you beat the trade that's got to be illegal. but the sort of analysis that goes on about what's going to happen in the policy making realm, it would be next to impossible to draw a line of legality versus illegality. >> we have a lobbyist right he

political power panel, aaron blake reporter for "the washington post," democrat ikt strategist david goodfriend, and msnbc contributor and republican strategist susan del percio. gang, great to have you here. a lot of people i think not too surprised mark sanford was able to pull it out against boss tick last night. but one thing that was interesting is the fact at how i guess the act of contrition that mark sanford has put out for the public to see, and it was interesting how he thanked his god. take a listen. >> i want to thank my god. you know, i used to cringe when somebody would say, okay, i want to thank my god, it was at that point, okay, this is getting uncomfortable. but once you've really received god's grace and seen it reflected in others, you cannot stop for a moment and publicly acknowledge that grace? and while god may be a god of second chances, at times voters are a little bit less forgiving. >> he may have nailed it on the head. susan, i want to start with you. obviously god can be forgiving, voters not so much. looks like he's off to a solid start. >> i'm more comfortable tal