david graber the anthropologist writes there has never been a society and history of the world that'sever existed that relies on barter. it's really debt debt is the main currency in the world. this is a really important point because no matter where i go in the world people think of money just as they think of a miles measuring a distance. they think about money as a measurement at debt. so debt gets invented around 4000, 5000 b.c.. coins aren't invented until the seventh century b.c.. in thousands of years of history of debt obligations and then money gets invented. it was in japan recently and this gets back to your jazz question. there's a great place to listen to jazz. i was in japan in tokyo and i brought some grapes for a friend. these grapes were the most expensive fruit i've ever bought bought. it was $40 for one strand of rapes and they are delicious. the texture was like soapy and i gave them to a friend of mine and he said kabir i cannot accept this fruit from you and i said why not? he said he will be going back to america today then i will never be able to repay you. i s

if you look at where coinages invented david graber the anthropologist writes coinage was invented some people say in greece and then you have a religious leader. coins are also around the same time in india. in china confucius say so some people say that maybe the creation of money led to a response which is organized religion. the leaders and followers came from the poor people and people were disenfranchised. you are right not just in christianity but judaism and the corona talks about prohibitions against interest. there's a long history to it but ultimately interest the word interest comes from the word mosque in samaria and. it translates to goad or lamb and so loans were given out in livestock essentially and he would prepay based on the offspring of that livestock. a lot of good has come from agrarian law. like in judaism you wouldn't plow the edges of the fields because she didn't want -- you wanted to save some for the people. i write about it more extensively in the book but that's a history and scripture. >> anyone else with the question? while somebody is thinking about it

another attorney who is more famous than fiber, maybe it is this guy, david boies. graberclaimed they hundred aig in a bailout. they are the latest in a string of alstom cases and a remarkable career of david boies. they just broke the profile of the legendary attorney already. a lot of people don't know this, you point this out in your story, david was not only does pierce attorney but he is also an entrepreneur. david eightn 1997, headlines when he left the archetypal corporate law form. -- law firm. he said he would set up a boutique and called it a country law office near his mansion in westchester. that has now morphed into a 300 lawyer powerhouse and it is one andhe most influential ubiquitous corporate litigation shops in the country. someyear, they pulled in $345 million. their partners are on an average of more than $3 million apiece and our article in businessweek is all about how boies has built his business. he is also a notch up in your and not just a trial lawyer. betty: how has he been able to build his business and get his stature? paul: the real point of d

if you look at where coinages invented david graber the anthropologist writes coinage was invented some people say in greece and then you have a religious leader. coins are also around the same time in india. in china confucius say so some people say that maybe the creation of money led to a response which is organized religion. the leaders and followers came from the poor people and people were disenfranchised. you are right not just in christianity but judaism and the corona talks about prohibitions against interest. there's a long history to it but ultimately interest the word interest comes from the word mosque in samaria and. it translates to goad or lamb and so loans were given out in livestock essentially and he would prepay based on the offspring of that livestock. a lot of good has come from agrarian law. like in judaism you wouldn't plow the edges of the fields because she didn't want -- you wanted to save some for the people. i write about it more extensively in the book but that's a history and scripture. >> anyone else with the question? while somebody is thinking about it