david graber his history of debt he would have found that it's humans it's people because they have their own minds and thoughts and they and that includes trust and not trusting so what happens when we go to gold.

i saw parallels between what you are saying and what david graber was saying. are you familiar with any of his work, like specifically, debt, the first 5000 years? if so, have you ever floated with any ideas or and arcus theories and incorporating that in your work? thank you for taking my call. >> guest: i know david. i am a admirer of his. it has come up in a lot of science-fiction conversations. joe is a wonderful welsh canadian writer and wrote an essay about debts and why it is in so many conversations. i read it and was completely taken aback. such a history end audacious title, the first 5000 years. when david came through los angeles where he lived i was his interlock on stage. we corresponded for years. in david's idea and those of other thinkers, austrian they made their ways into my books in many different ways. >> host: they author will be profiled tonight at 7:00 o'clock on c-span. as far as the and arcus part to subscribe to any of that philosophy? >> those are definitely two different questions. just because they write about it doesn't mean they

doctorow, would you be familiar with the anarchist activist and anthropologist david graber?hen you are speaking about social interactions as transactional primarily and have it could be problematic in so many different ways, i thought a lot of parallels between what you were saying and anarchist david graber was thinking i was wondering, one, are you familiar with any of his works like specifically that, the first 5000 years? and if so, have you ever flooded with any ideas of an anarchist theory whether incorporate that into your work? and thank you for taking my call. >> guest: i know david. i guess i could call him a powder certainly and i am an admirer of his. it's come up and a lot of science-fiction conversation. joel waldman is a wonderful writer, wrote an essay for tor.com about that of questiono many science-fiction conversation. i would often bring in which is completely taken aback. such a magisterial history and such an audacious title, the first 5000 years. when david came to los angeles where i live on tour with bullshit jobs come is doable, it was the first ame

that attempt was not to meet those have jobs they don't care about at all like i would say to david graberalmost any job you have to pretend to be busy at all times. you know that right? manual labor or whatever. that is the trick in medicine colleges should teach. [laughter] how to look busy. >> i will be here for signing you have been an incredible idea if you want to find out more about our organization we have information thank you. >> we have copies of barbara's book register please hold your chairs to form the signing line. [inaudible conversations]

david graber his history of debt he would have found that it's humans it's people because they have. their own minds and thoughts and they and that includes trust and not trusting so what happens when we go to gold it wasn't about friction it was about trust so we would have credit based systems for very long periods of time when things were harmonious and the soldiers and the people believed in the government and they had faith in the government during times of war and conflict it was the mercenaries in the soldiers who didn't believe that their government would be basically good for the credit for them to go out cross to the middle east from rome and go down to jerusalem and start fighting some other people around the world they want to gold right so these goals then there's a supply that were based on the trust the people obviously our governments are having a very good with a pure system they love it our government doesn't have to do anything but the people are the ones that chose big coin they're the ones that create a big coin the genesis block of bitcoin in january third two t

that attempt was not to meet those have jobs they don't care about at all like i would say to david graberalmost any job you have to pretend to be busy at all times. you know that right? manual labor or whatever. that is the trick in medicine colleges should teach. [laughter] how to look busy. >> i will be here for signing you have been an incredible idea if you want to find out more about our organization we have information thank you. >> we have copies of barbara's book register please hold your chairs to form the signing line. [inaudible conversations] >> hello john i am the president here freedom works at the center for economic freedom. i hear you have a new book? yes i do it is about an exciting explosion of jobs that don't feel at all like work that more and more people go to do something at which they are the superstar. work is were they triumph and where they want to be increasingly because they can showcase their unique skills and intelligence.

cory doctorow are you familiar with the anarchist activist david graber? when you are speaking previously about the social interactions that is transactional primarily how that could bema problematic, i saw a lot of parallels between what you were saying and anarchist david graber. are you familiar with his works? and if so, have you ever flirted with any ideas of the anarchist theory or putting that into your work? thank you for taking my call. >> yes. i know david i guess i could call him a powell i am an admirer of his. another of his books was hugely influential we have a lot of science-fiction conversations. as a wonderful welsh canadian writer wrote anay essay why death is in so many science fictional conversations i was was completely taken aback such a magisterial history and audacious title the first 5000 years. when david came through where i live on tour i was his interlocutor as actually it was the first time we met although we corresponded for years. so these ideas occur they have made their ways into my books in lots of different ways. >> dav

david graber his history of debt he would have found that it's humans it's people because they have.their own minds and thoughts and they and that includes trust and not trusting so what happens when we go to gold it wasn't about friction it was about trust so we would have credit based systems for very long periods of time when things were harmonious and the soldiers and the people believed in the government and they had faith in the government during times of war and conflict it was the mercenaries in the soldiers who didn't believe that their government would be basically good for the credit for them to go out cross to the middle east from rome and go down to jerusalem and start fighting some other people around the world they want to gold right so these goals then there's a supply that were based on the trust of the people obviously our governments are having a very good with a pure system they love it our government doesn't have to do anything but the people are the ones that chose big coin they're the ones that create a big coin the genesis block of big january third two thousa

at 7 pm eastern, david graber talks about jobs that are unnecessary. following that, university of missouri professor stephen watts debate whether playboy founder hugh hefner was good or bad for america. then on book tvs "after words" program, former military intelligence officer malcolm nance examines cyber warfare and other tactics used by russia to interfere with the presidential election. at 10, syndicated columnist mona sharon

david graber his history of debt he would have found that it's humans it's people because they have their own minds and thoughts and they and that includes trust and not trusting so what happens when we go to gold it wasn't about friction it was about trust so we would have credit based systems for very long periods of time when things were harmonious and the soldiers and the people believed in the government and they had faith in the government during times of war and conflict it was the mercenaries in the soldiers who didn't believe that their government would be basically good for the credit for them to go up across the middle east from rome and go down to jerusalem and start fighting some other people around the world they want to gold right so these goals then there's a supply that were based on the trust of the people obviously our governments are having a very good with a pure system they love it our government doesn't have to do anything but the people are the ones that chose big coin they're the ones that create a big coin the genesis block of bitcoin in january third two thousan