thank you for taking the time to join us and join me in thanking david grinspoon. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> every weekend but tv offers programming focused on nonfiction authors and books. keep watching for more here on c-span two. watch any of our past programs online at tv .org. >> fcc commissioner mignon clyburn is our guest on the communicators this week. welcome, commissioner. thank you for coming back. this is the first time in your service on the federal medications that even in the minority and about five months. how is that different than the previous eight years? >> very interesting. i often think of myself playing offense and defense. so, playing the entire field it has been a little exhausting but exhilarating at the same time. i haven't changed. the things that i care about in terms of consumers have been first and foremost in our minds when it comes to policy and when it comes to my interests and when it comes to serving them. that hasn't changed. things are different, you're right. there's been a couple of -- more than a couple of two o