>> the late david h. patton and a giant in the free market movement and the presidents of the institute since 1984. >> you also publish books and i want to ask you about a couple of them. let's begin with this one by herbert will work, school choice findings. >> one of the issues of the harlem institute has pushed for decades now the idea of school choice and having money and when that happens, student achievement does rise and so herb will byrd on of our senior fellows is interested in the topic and knowledgeable and was also a fellow at the hoover institution and has written two books on school choice so we can get the public and the politicians the facts about why and how a school choice works for parents and students. >> and the other book he's written about it is called advancing student achievement. where does this one go? >> this is as the title would suggest goes beyond what school choice can do to raise achievement and talk some more detail about how the structure as you need in place to make sure stude