c david hayman is a successful biog grapher for 30 years.e's profile jackie onasize is liz taylor and joe and marilyn was published in july. according to my next guest, his books are not worthy for another reason. they are littered with fabrications and made-up stories that sells books and has no basis in the truth. let's bring in ka couple of guests. he wrote the upcoming cover story. entitled "pulp fiction", david, according to you news week piece this guy has made up things for a long time. you wrote about his fabrications in 1993. i didn't know about the story, how did he get away with it. >> it's an important question. in 1983 he wrote a book about barbara hutton, claiming he spent many trips and hours with her, and she had given him personal books. he had no notebooks, recordings, cary grant and others tole me things were not true, and he had made up material that came from another author who told me he had made up his stories about it. i was astonished that he published all the books, the last four through the books division of c.b.s.

it seems to me you had to be wilfully blind not to know that. >> c david hayman died in 2012. he is not there to fight this topic. you would think at that point those publishing this would listen to you saying maybe we are doing something wrong here. >> i agree. someone would criticise me saying the guy is dead. the books are sold, prem oated to children. that got me on to it. it was like really, you would show this stuff to children. >> i don't understand the value of it being taught in high schools. good to see you. thank you for joining us. the conversation continues on the website aljazeera.com. or on facebook or google plus, or on twitter at . have a great labour day weekend. >> it's still months before college football season kicks off, but the team at northwestern university is in the middle of a 40 hour work week. >> they are traveling more than even 10 years ago, they're being asked to sacrifice more they're asked to treat their sport as a year-round endeavor. so the demands on them are so intense that it has put them in a situation where it's like a fight or die situ

. >> professor david hayman was part of a team that investigated the first outbreak. he says it all began on a school master who may have gotten infected after butchering an animal he bought from a local market. >> he was treated in the outpatient department with nose bleed and dysentery with an injection. and in that outpatient department there were only four needles and syringes. those four needles and syringes were not sterilized between uses and they were taken into the maternity. >> the first outbreak occurred in the hospital where he says poor hygiene was commonplace. within three months, the hospital closed down. 280 people had died, including many of its health workers. >> health workers then began to get infected because they didn't know what the disease was. they became infected and they were the source of the virus to their family members and then out into the community. so this was an outbreak that shouldn't have occurred and wouldn't have occurred if hospital practices had been the way they should have been. >> since then, there have been some ten outbrea

hayman. [laughter] and i was just hoping mark would get here so he could introduce you. hey, man. but david heyman, we're happy to see you, assistant secretary for policy at the department of homeland security. mr. heyman has the office that is responsible for strengthening our nation's homeland security by developing programming, planning and strategies. caitlin durkovich, assistant secretary for infrastructure protection at the department of homeland security. in this role she leads the department's efforts to strengthen the public/private partnerships and coordinate programs to protect the nation's critical infrastructure, assess and hit gate risk, build resill januaries and -- resilience and strengthen incident response and recoveries. nice to see you again, welcome. and last i -- last i but not least, mark gaffigan. government accountability office's environmental team, responsible for gao's assessments of federal efforts to manage our nation's land and water resources, protect the environment, ensure food safety, manage agricultural programs, end sure a reliable and environmentally-so