that would be david horowitz.as been around communists and revoluntionaries and progressives and in washington knows how to really sniff them out, unlike anybody else, because you were part of it for a long time. david, the average person has no clue as to -- you know, they're getting off their couch for the first time. they're marching in protest and now you have the president of the united states -- former president of the united states coming out and saying these are violent racist people. you walk into a town hall meeting or a protest, a tea party thing and somebody says that, how do you respond? how do you fight this? >> that makes the democratic party a party of racists, because michael steele is the chairman of the republican party, all the time. i guess, also, they don't want to see another black president for a long time, because americans don't want a president that they can't criticize, and all this is an attempt to silence people. as you say, where's the proof? they have no proof that anybody is a raci

. >> there's a wonderful pamphlet that david horowitz ote and i am sure many of you are familiar with him in los angeles called the art political warfare. i suggest this. it's about strategy. basically david makes the point the side that has a strategy will almost always win against the side that doesn't he a strategy. and so you're point iwell taken. there needs to be a strategy. i would emphasize again that for conservatives it's not enough to say you're against obama and maybe there will be a backlash, maybe not. roosevelt w four elections and the economy got worse and worse during the 30's. what republicans need is a strategy that also has a positive futur and positive image. talk about what the free enterprise system does. there is a reaso whymerica represents less than 5% of the worldopulation but 25 -- 27% of the world's gdp. there's something goi on here weave been doing rig. socialism is goi to hurt that. >> i wanted to ask the speakers if they saw tension or contradiction in the conservative movement between on the one hand libertarian's whose stress freedom individual choic