ultimately i think you can adopt as david hume old we did sort of a pessimistic case for free speech.id hume had been very optimistic about free-speech and then joe wilkes in the '70s or 76 in the uk sort of used free-speech as a blowtorch to attack everyone and sort of radicalized his supporters, and david hume sort of came to think of free speech that comes you know, radical speech is sort of an abuse of free speech but it's more dangerous to allow the government to clamp down so it's sort of, and unavoidable cost of free speech that your people with extreme views. so that's how i look at it but i would certainly not say that facebook and twitter we should just be different to what goes on there but i think there are other solutions then sort centralized content moderation that we should try to look at before we go down that road. >> i'll add a response to john, the point you make, and then expand that made into a question for jacob based on what you just said. john, i think the question about populism versus elitism that this university professor asked would've been more appropriat

edward gibbon, david hume and thomas jefferson were also self-declared deists like tom paine, those other dudes had a good sense about it to keep quiet and only announced that fact in private to their highfalutin philosophical friends. but that is not tom paine's style. paine, of course, use the pages of the age of reason to shout his de-ism from the rooftops of paris. he's in his gift for plainspoken language and a polemical turn of phrase to take that gospel to the masses. and he had all too much success. in britain, sales of the age of reason part one surpassed all records. in fact, breaking records set by the rights of man two years earlier. church leaders now denounced paine with acid and thunder. and the age of reason attracted at least 50 rebuttals. charging its author, tom paine, with being either an infidel, which is wrong, or a deist, which is fair enough. or, most ironically, a filthy atheist, not even close. doggerel versus saying the same flooded the press not only in britain but also in america. which was in the midst of a major evangelical revival at the time, known to most