we also have david hundain, the founder of the west african weekly, he's a journalist and author in london. welcome to the program. thank you very much for having me. now let's start off with mr. matthew pax there in south africa. uh, the israeli apart regime is currently moving thousands of africans from countries such as kenya and malawi to labor cams inside occupied territories. amid his genocidal war in gaza. so what's your view on these unfortunate move? "look, we think it's unfortunate, we think that israel right now is engaged in a brutal war against the palestinian people, and we should be minimizing contact and trade with israel, and that would include people from african countries like malawi and kenya going to work on their farms, israel needs to resolve its problems with the palestinian people, because in effect that many of these jobs would normally been occupied by palestinian people, and because of the war against palestinians, the..." longer doing it, so and hence in other words, we're the israelis are employing african labor to try to displace the palestinian people, so we